Patchwerk is casting hateful strike every 1.6 instead of 1.2 seconds

PTR LOGS

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TKaNVt3hjBxzrPgW/#type=damage-done&fight=14&hostility=1&ability=28308&view=events

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aRgKVMNt7hyTjAbC/#fight=21&type=damage-done&hostility=1&view=events&ability=28308

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/f6bLKycV2T14aNjz/#fight=13&type=damage-done&view=events&hostility=1&ability=28308

Patchwerk is casting hateful strike every 1.6 seconds when it should be every 1.2. In Fusion’s log, the average HS interval was 1.65 seconds (147 seconds, 89 hatefuls).

here is a video from 2006, the group used an addon to track the intervals between hatefuls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InrowKVl0Mk

while there is variance, hatefuls generally occur once every 1.2 seconds for the entire fight. the PTR version of patchwerk is dealing significantly less dps than it should be.

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probably correct - somehow their botched batching implementation is probably causing the additional 400ms delay is my guess. No clue though.

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For what it’s worth, his attack animations seems slower than in the original, like he’s not attacking as fast.

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Your likely correct. He is probably experiencing a spell batch from within his auto attacks or something on the hateful cast. Much like how weapon abilities that cast spells can’t trigger if on the GCD.

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I surveyed Hateful Strike across logs from several runs. Hateful strike timing was incredibly consistent across all of them at ~1.6s between swings. I agree this is incorrect compared to Vanilla’s 1.2s average timing.

I hope this bug is fixed before Naxx launches. Severity seems comparable to the C’Thun eye beaming 10s delay when AQ40 first opened.

Data:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11QmD3xos7vHuPhhSKz8tBTAzDuU2EWgRq17rnpHUzBg/edit#gid=1312250665

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bump. there are numerous logs that show Patchwerk batching two hateful strikes to hit the same target simultaneously. The devs need to look at these issues.

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@hareem - have you seen this happen in the middle of the pull? I’ve seen one log with it happening at the start of a pull. Can you share the logs of batched hateful strikes?

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Bump, i havent seen any logs where it occurs mid fight. someone in priest discord said they had a log but they never followed up. The latest double hateful in a log I’ve seen was 11 seconds

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hmm I wonder if this is also what’s causing Gothik to hit someone with two shadow bolts simultaneously.

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Do you have a log for that, Impsie?

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The original one that I noticed this I’ll have to hunt down, but here’s a couple.

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LPVKvC6FRhQrGTqa#boss=1109&difficulty=3&hostility=1&source=87&type=damage-done&view=events

00:04:33.961 Gothik the Harvester Shadow Bolt Quintessince 2175
00:04:33.961 Gothik the Harvester Shadow Bolt Quintessince 877 (O: 1588)

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cTXH3ytBR9vfw4aD#fight=last&hostility=1&source=80&type=damage-done&view=events

00:00:12.701 Gothik the Harvester Shadow Bolt Mgl 1864
00:00:12.701 Gothik the Harvester Shadow Bolt Mgl 2101

Usually he’s casting it on two different players at once, but in some twitch clips you can see 3-4 bolts come out of him at once in different directions (the clip I posed in another topic last month got deleted unfortunately).

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Gothik multi-hitting is Not a Bug. I appreciate the interest in attacks hitting twice (or more) in the same second in this thread, but Gothik is supposed to use shadowbolt on several random targets in front of him which we can see in various Gothik videos from throughout time.

Do you mind sharing that log with an ~11 second double hateful?

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/253203850096279552/771516866128248852/unknown.png

not 11 seconds, but 8.

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Thanks for all of the helpful information in this thread! We did identify an issue that caused Patchwerk to cast his Hateful Strike ability slightly less often than was correct and that should be resolved with Naxxramas launch in patch 1.13.6.

We also investigated reports of Patchwerk casting double Hateful Strikes on the same target in the same second and we put in a fix that should make this ability behave in a way that is more consistent with the original fight.

Lastly, we re-added the Slime Bolt ability to Patchwerk that was originally added in patch 1.12.1 to prevent a few exploits that were used to trivialize Patchwerk in 2006.

Thanks everyone!

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how does one notice a .4 sec difference without addons

Reading logs, and just the general feel of damage.

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Hey shoutout to Blizz for actually fixing this stuff, thank you!

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No; thank you!

you are making us like you Blizzard again… (warm feels)