Patch feels horrible

I like the “pre-defensive” healing style, you’re rewarded for having a lot of game knowledge

My problem with destro is they don’t really have a dps cooldown, they just 1 shot people randomly with nothing rolling

I see wings, I dome

I see deathmark on kidney, I ps

I see rapid fire, I shadowmeld

I see spear, I dome

I see destro, I instantly die randomly

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isn’t it weird that we can’t play the game without guides? … I mean, the simpler the better right?

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No because it gives nothing to work/strive for

There should be a skill gap between a player that’s done 20k bgs, and a player that’s done 50

Does this mean healers should also never heal more than 10% in a single button press either?

you can reward pre defensive playstyle and still have a game that has more back and forth than we have had in 2 years.

no, healers can heal for a little more or the same (just throttled) but should run out of mana and not be able to keep someone alive for 2 minutes on empty like late BFA.

it would actually require blizzard to pay attention to pvp and balance while being active in the community (which hasnt happened in a long while)

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Feels relatively good atm tbh, I don’t know what healer you’re playing though

Yeahhhhhh no. the game is more fun when button presses feel satisfying and impactful there’s nothing wrong with popping all your cooldowns and killing someone with absolutely 0 defensives in a 4 second window.

All the most successful eras of wow pvp had really powerful burst damage but also had powerful defensives and powerful healing to counteract this. Maxing hp loss to 10% per global would literally be the biggest snooze fest of all time even the slowest season in wow history (bfa season 4) wasn’t that slow.

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Healing as a healer in Bgs feels useless when the warrior is out, healing everyone by millions. I don’t have the best gear in the world, but DPS classes should NEVER heal more than a class and specialization that is meant ONLY for healing.

This is just poor and lazy game design to completely negate half of the game and take the healing from the healing classes and give it to everyone else making healers basically useless.

Respectfully, if a healer is getting outhealed (or even remotely close to getting outhealed) by a warrior or any other dps spec then they have absolutely 0 clue on how to play the game.

The only non healing spec that will sometimes outheal competent healers is blood dk.

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I wish that were true, but it’s not.
Healers got nerfed hard this last patch, and all off healing got a HUGE buff.

Hpally got roughly a 9% Nerf on top of the 25% increase to life pools. So instead of 2 or 3 heals to top someone off it’s taking easily 5+.

While a DH can regen his entire health bar with 1 skill with a quick cool down compared to pallies who have to generate holy power to get a decent heal. and you have to take into account that mana pools for healers get depleted very quickly while DPS classes pools do not.

I have only played Hpally so that’s all I can comment on.

while I will admit, my sample pool is random Bgs that have a host of issues with gear differentials.

In PVE it’s even worse. pre-patch with my crap gear I could heal +10s. after patch and getting slightly more gear, I couldn’t even heal a +8

Ok but a dps spec has yet to do even half my healing in any bg the only specs that come close are enhance shaman with healing stream chain heals and spriests with vamp embrace flash heals but even they rarely do over 10m healing while I average 20-50mill healing in bgs depending on how long the game is.

With wings up in a battleground without dampening Hpals still top people in 2-3 globals

If ur getting outhealed by dps or even coming close then ur playing incorrectly

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wrong, and the participation numbers show your wrong. but hey if you enjoy the brainless CoD style pacing, have at it. the game will continue to suffer.

not true, the best times were when pacing was steady and a back and forth existed.

the season was slow not because of damage but because healers healed for way to much per global and took forever too oom, and could still heal while oom. damage was actually fine (excluding destro, fmage, and assi) , healers just made it obnoxious.

Wrong.the most active pvp season in world of Warcraft history was in wrath.

Wrath of the Lich king season 10 had over 10 million active pvpers and was fast paced.

When was this?

You realize the game can be steady paced while also having big burst damage if healing and defensives are strong .(look at mop s15)

4 seconds to kill with all your burst damage on a target with LITERALLY 0 DEFENSIVES LEFT isnt cod style pacing. It’s the gold standard.

COD style pacing is s1 of shadowlands when ww monks got a spinning crane kick proc and randomly 80-0d you in 0.5 seconds

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wtf lol? are you illiterate or just being argumentative i never specified just said DF atm has had atrocious participation and has been pretty clearly declining since SL and into DF.

legion, ssn 1 bfa are more recent examples. mop was decent if you were one of chosen classes. burst still felt way to high at times for certain specs but nowhere near as bad as now.

if it takes you that long as any class right now than you seriously need to go look up a pve guide my guy rofl.

maybe for low brow individuals who cant actually focus on something for more than a minute. counter play is almost nonexistent if you just press your cool downs and do your 1 2 3 button combo. its pathetic and boring.

its also contributing to the dwindling population of pvpers as no one likes dying faster than they can react to learn and improve. not to mention to snowball levels of pacing in bigger environments like bgs that just kill all interest when your dead in 1-2 seconds flat when jumped by 3 dps. it also feels just as boring and unrewarding when your on the giving end.

What class can solo somebody 100-0 in 3 seconds or less? Only ones that come close are we and boomkin.

You are so out of touch with reality.

Shouldn’t have bothered engaging As soon as I saw some rando level 17 alt type some out of touch with reality take like this:

Literally never been the case in the history of the game

with no defensives up and all your offensives? a ton lol. I think your the out of touch one. im sorry pressing your swift macro into your 3 button wombo is hard.

the response from someone admitting defeat and not able to bring any logical argument after proving in the earlier reply your obv of low intellect and illiterate to boot.

You keep making claims without giving any evidence. Most Specs take at least 4 seconds to kill 100-0. I gave you a fact of reality which you cannot disprove.

I just have you a fact which you cannot disprove :slight_smile:

Im sure that sounded way more intelligent in your head

Oh boy…