Thank you for that great analysis nobody asked for
He asked for it. He linked arenamate and suggested I “play” with it. I just posted my findings.
You good?
git gud non-paladin players git gud
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As Cdew plays Hpal, literally the best healing spec in arena atm. They’ve also been beating Vanguards more than they’ve lost to him. I guess that means Ret needs a buff.
games were legitimate coin tosses what planet are you on?
Dude prot pal is represented twice as much as MW above 2400, and the highest mw and prot pal are toe-to-toe not sure what your point is lol.
It’s an obnoxious spec based on forgiving mechanics that has no place in pvp. Of course it won’t be represented as much as other specs, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t need fixing. Maybe casters being op keep them in check for tourny plays but still.
Also : https://twitter.com/cdew_wow/status/1349994532033753089 to close that cdew debate lol.
Earth. I just closed his stream.
Yeah I don’t really have a snapback for that.
And while I guess we’re just not going to agree on Prot, I still don’t see any reason to nerf it. It’s not overperforming on the ladder whatsoever. It is for a tank spec, but in the grand scheme it’s a bad spec, and you’d be much better off just running Ret if you wanted to climb.
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As always, I just don’t think representation is a good indicator for viability/good design, especially for niche specs like tanks. Given how boring the spec is for a lot of top players and how hard it is to switch specs in SL, I don’t really expect prot pals to be at the top of the ladder.
Heck, if I take 2’s the highest hunter actually plays with a prot pal lmao. (The spec is twice as represented as MM in that scenario too, if you actually want to use those data xD)
The mechanics and tuning make it really annoying to play against since everything is tailored to slow down the pace of the game and correct mistakes (multiple immunities, cc immunity with horse+ conduit, 30k+ wog etc.). As hunter whether you win or lose it’s always an awful time into prots and you can see most of these players should be 300 rating lower.
Then again I wouldn’t be surprised if the spec is actually played in tournies at some point 
Sorry if my english doesn’t make sense, and if I came off as aggressive earlier on.
Ret is fine this is a git gud issue
Tbh pallies aren’t that far off from being pretty balanced IMO.
Holy pally I would like to see changes so they actually have to cast. Like every other healer.
And rets, if word of glory had like a 6 second CD or something. Along with divine toll not being able to crit.
Yeah I’d like ww to have no arms or legs so they can’t punch or kick anymore.
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If you’ve got an issue with WW that’s fine but it’s not currently the topic discussed. Make a WW thread if you wanna discuss my class. Other than that keep it to pallies.
No I’m merely matching the caliber of your suggestions. 
Paladins and warriors on this forums have the same victim complex no wonder why they pair up so well xd
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Yeah okay. Judgment go burrrrr…
Really though I don’t think pallies are as bad as people make them out to be. Aside from the fact that Hpals just about never cast, and when they do it’s usually divine favor’d.
And rets ability to have one button just to machine gun someone down from 20k, which for the majority of players is + / - half people’s health bars. Or are just able to spam back to back WoG’s to top themselves. If they don’t want to reduce the healing it does atleast reduce how often it’s doable. 6 second CD by no means would kill that class.
If it makes you feel any better I’m not opposed to monk nerfs if their done right the problem is people don’t actually know what to nerf and so 90% of the suggestions are here are absolutely dumb.
I however would like to see things stay the same will everyone is max renown to see what that’s like before we start hitting classes damage / healing.
I don’t give a damn about monks or any class for that matter rn. I’m here to simply let you know your opinion is wrong.
You lost to a ret in arena and that’s ok. Learn from it and que again. There’s ways to beat ret and all of it is an l2p issue.
There’s so much to learn from when being at 50% health and 30 yards away from a pally when they 1 shot you with a 1 min CD.
No one wants to see their class get nerfed but if you honestly think that currently rets are fine… when I’m honestly wasting my time talking to you. - good luck out there
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You really are wasting your time talking to me. You should be learning to play rather than complaining on the forums about losing. It’s ok to lose just learn from it. Read some abilities.
Look at that dude post history, you’re wasting time trying to communicate
I guess those 2500 games in a month really screw a man’s brain.
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