Paid carry runs needs to be stopped

I mean, there is a way to tell.

Look at total runs completed for every bracket.

It’s generally a safe bet if you see a lot of runs pyramiding up to the top, this shows they have been working their way up on their own.

Or if you see someone has a lot ot 15+ timed or 20+ timed in an almost reverse pattern with less completed at the lower levels tends to show they know their class and punch above their weight frequently.

If key levels completed or pretty flat or totally skipped and have a small amount of high end keys done, it’s generally safe to assume they’ve been carried.

Keep in mind though, people can have a bad dungeon and can cause them to fluster themselves and make mistakes even more.

Keep an open mind when PUGing and try to stay positive, even when things go poorly just chalk it up to a loss and most people part ways without being hostile and get it.

With that said, wouldn’t mind finding some friends to do some M+ with! I have no steady group and exclusively PUG, I have a 2600+ IO Pally tank at 414 ilvl I haven’t done keys on for a bit, and a 2200 (I think?) Mage alt that is only 398 ivl!

Stay classy folks!

Cant stop people from playing the game and also cant stop people from trading.

When I was new to the game, I would have paid extra gold for a carry group that would actually explain the mechanics and walk me through it, problem is they want to speed through everything.

If you sell runs two things.

One, you should always have a good team to run mythic with. Why you PuGing if you ain’t selling?

Two, if you’re good enough to sell runs, you’re good enough to over come one bad player.

All in all you shot your issue down by complaining about runs being sold but continuing to do so cause it’s allowed.

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Except texting while driving is illegal, at least in most of the US to my recollection. So the OP and anybody else doing it would get fined and/or otherwise penalized for doing it. Bad analogy is bad analogy.

Why wouldn’t you, if you were already doing it? Gimping yourself as a solo cry of protest accomplishes nothing in this circumstance. Nobody’s gonna care.

More bad analogies.

OP’s point is that it is currently allowed, and they don’t think it should be allowed for anybody to do it.

How exactly are they going to up rates for a service they can’t legitimately provide without risking their account? OP doesn’t want to eliminate competition, they want the entire market gone, period.

Because your behavior is polluting the player space with the bad players you’re specifically complaining about. You are “part of the problem”.

You not selling runs will not stop the problem, but will certainly reduce it as one less provider providing the service, perhaps turning someone away who decides to not proceed. Tada, one less “bad player”.

Imagine if everyone in your position chose the right thing that you advocate for rather than the wrong thing that you practice.

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There will always be a market for the services. It can either be done out in the open, like it is now, or it will be done behind the scenes, where the market value will increase due to the risk involved.

Well thankfully he won’t get what he wants and neither will anyone else that is stomping their feet about this. It’s been allowed since Vanilla, the guild I was in would charge gold for carries thru previous tier content to fund our pushes thru current tier.

Also don’t you find it odd that the OP wants a practice, that they openly admit to participating in, to be banned?

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How does he look good on paper ?

You can literally pull up his IO sheet and see that he never climbed, got insta 20’d, and the 20s were run with a group that was obviously way too good to have invited him anyway.

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Right… it’s almost like they don’t realize we can look at how many runs they have done. Do they really think that all people care about is the IO rating?

why do you think that they are sitting AFK?

it could have been his friends in different guilds on different servers, you won’t ever know but you are certainly assuming.

You assume that, I’ll assume he was carried either way and not invite him.

No, good analogy. It doesn’t matter if something is legal or not legal. If you dislike it, then don’t do it. Especially don’t come advertise it on the forums under the guise of “I hate carries” but hey, I’ll carry you.

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So, tell me. How is this any different than a guild carrying someone the same way? This smells more of jealousy over a meaningless score.

“Damn, kids, I had to work two jobs in the snow uphill both ways and they didn’t”

The problem comes from people using their paid carry score to slip into pugs they don’t belong in, ruining the run for 4 other peeps.

If you pay for a carry and never try to pug, no one cares.

Only thing I could think of.

Give each player a ranking at end of the run: bronze, silver, gold

Players can see how many medals you have accumulated.

Determining how the game calculates those ranking would be a disaster but it could maybe be something with enough thought put into it.

Yup totally agree.

Just wanted to make sure the first comment of the thread said this.

Carry on

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