Overtuned Firelands Raid

Your guild knows the Fissure vendor has heroic gear, yeah?

Sure thing there bud. Denial isnt a river in Egypt.

Lol people arent even running the content after the phase ends. I havent seen a single T11 raid forming

I would kick them from my any and all my Inferno runs.

Why? Were you doing low dps at 359? Because I wasn’t.

no because they are 359 and cant clear FL so you know theyre hard carries

Bold claim, but possibly true given there’s 130 heroic Rag kills atm. So which guild are you a part of?

Yo you realize blizzard gatekept gear with bosses, mechanics and rng right?

The difficulty curve in player classes increased in cata by a fair amount due to design changes, that turned way more people off than i think people care to admit.

lol a lot of them don’t even run dungeons outside of the guild groups if they do its only 1 person being added at best so even if you attempted to kick you would fail an be kicked instead.

Bro, what?
Your response had nothing to do with his statement about a difference in player skill and representation of the playerbase… Just so happens he’s right, whether I play that way myself or not.

as long as you have 10 or 25 people on the same page raiding can be fun whether or not it’s “hardcore” or casual. Just down to whatever goals you have

“Plenty of guilds recruiting” can also be said as “lots of guilds fighting the roster boss.”

It’s indicative of a low player base, not a healthy one.

Guilds were fighting the roster boss in AQ, SSC/TK, Ulduar and ICC too. There’s a 3 month cycle where a lot of people get bored and start dropping out if there isn’t something keeping them around

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We’re at lowest player population total since the beginning of Classic too, however. Looking forward to fresh myself, tho will keep raiding in Cata too.

yeah theyre constantly spamming the Looking For Group channel with 16 lines of spam its a part time job to report everyone spamming for improper channel use.

The population drops every new expac by the end of mop it will be 5% of the population of Classic when it first launched.

Ngl, we are way more “advanced” and knowledgeable than back then. But i still gotta admit that the damage, especialy to tanks…is excessive.
Ive dont the raid back then and touched it now…and back then i thought that hc rag os the single hardest boss ive ever had a chance to prog on. To where it was i still think that to this day. Maybe they released unnerfed versions of the bosses…but rag still feels a lot easier than back then especialy the dmg checks. Maybe im wrong and it wasnt that hard to begin with.
But to the topic…imho theres no point on releasing overtuned or excessively hard raid for classic…good ppl will clear it day one regardless and the rest of the playerbase will cba even bother with those. Imho ofc.