I much prefer the iron horde / the orcs of war2. No reason we can’t have a playable “evil” side. It gives the alliance reason to actually fight the horde and it gives meaning to the name “the horde” which currently should just be called “not humans and ugly totally not humans”.
All this “every race must be good and redeemed” is just covering the fact blizzard hasn’t hired a good writer in over a decade.
Woah! Welcome back! Haven’t seen you ‘round these parts in years.
Yep, this thread is absolutely full of dog whistles. I don’t know who they think they’re fooling, we know exactly what they really mean (and can’t say because it’s against the forum CoC).
I loved that quest…it was some of the best writing this game has had. You could literally feel the regret coming off of the guy.
Yes I hate this.
Can you stop undermining every correct thing you say with something stupid?
I want to play an Iron horde whose motivations make sense.
AKA Iron horde that sees Azeroth as a threat and so seeks to dominate it. None of this demonic corruption stuff - Grom is against that.
and we all know goats are a bunch of grass chomping floozies.
True but mostly by people such as yourself.
That was supposed to be the Iron Horde’s motivation. Garrosh lied to them. He showed them the vision of time, and only showed them the Alliance invading prime timeline Draenor and destroying it.
Unfortunately the story was so terribly written that they seemingly forgot about that.
Being peaceful is how you end up getting dominated and/or corrupted. Peace comes from strength.
This is what they mean when they say orcs are soft. They want demons.
The Orc Heritage quest is about bringing the Orc clans back together, how is that a bad thing?
If anything, it opens the possibility for future Orc armour transmogs, if not new (think Rexxar) skins.
Yeah, so much cut content. Its a shame.
I’m always the last to know.
Oh no! that never happens in Warcraft! 
/s
…Oh no, the basics of survival that Orcs has been doing for Centuries!! 
/s
Orcs are fine. 
If anything, they are in a better position then they are decades ago. Everybody ain’t trying to kill them now so… 
Same here, minus the sugars. And non dairy Creams.
Never said he isn’t allowed.
Just said I don’t care for it.
Especially with an Orc. If I want mooshy stuff I’d play a Night Elf or something.
There’s enough of that forced down out throats in-game. But where are the Dragonmaws hunting and taming dragons for sport? Why can’t we partake in that instead.
Your hyperbole is that of legendary making with this post; I will use it to teach others.
This was covered at the Ruby Shrine’s Inn. They flat out talk about the wrongs they had done to dragonkind and yet the dragons still help him.
There are very few people who enjoy playing evil characters, so spending time making playable evil character development is functionally a waste of resources in a game that necessarily forces you to end up at the same point anyway.