Opinions on TWW Storyline

In the past, blizzard is paid some attention, but only to make them into the villains, which is even worse. Otherwise, they’ve ignored the Horde for a long time and that has sucked for a long time.

It’s gotten to the point where it has become clear Blizzard has nothing else to offer Horde players. I think one tipping point was Amadrasil, where you just didn’t have Horde players being given neutral plots lead by the Alliance, but Blizzard expecting them to play through Alliance development, lead by Alliance characters. As the old content fades into the background and Horde players have nothing left but “sometimes you are the villains” for their backstory.

I know that, as I said, I have never felt that the story arc was so irrelevant to me.

Well, as an Alliance player, it wouldn’t bother you.

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Even if they made the Alliance villains I still would not be bothered by it, heck even if they suddenly made Pandaren evil, it is what it is. I dont even play Alliance because I like Alliance, I just play Alliance because I dislike Horde going all the way back to BC when I started.
But perhaps if this were pre-WoD that I would say something different, post-WoD? Eh…nah lol they can write whatever they want at this point. I suppose I feel for people who want the story to be something different but I kinda gave up a long time ago hoping for this or that from Blizz.

So basically you don’t understand why people aren’t as apathetic as you

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I would not say apathetic, its just in a story with some many (many) flaws as it is, I dont view “who gets how much screen time” as important, but if people do thats understandable.

[shrug]

Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn’t. It is easy to be laid back about hypotheticals. Maybe you don’t care about how Blizzard treats your characters background, many do.

If you say it is about “who gets screen time”, you don’t get it…

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Its not a topic I really look into all that much so maybe I dont get it? I always head canon my character’s actual story anyway, no way they would do even half of the in game quests.

the whole dwarven cast + Alleria and Anduin are there. It is literally an alliance only story. Meaning the main key art and cinematic trailer were just false advertizement yet again just like back in BFA.

It was good but it lacked horde characters. Mostly just evolves around Anduin and Alleria too much.

lol our female friend is having a meltdown about the New Novela announce! Its so funny… she now determined and made the most dramatic vow ever, to by any means necessary with her Horde hardcore friends find out what’s going on in the Story being so focus on Alliance!

Told her that we just going to the undermine but the fact we killing another former Horde character has her unconsolable… lol :laughing:

She so upset haha :joy:

Atleast there’s a friendly goblin character that horde players to relate to unlike Gallywix.

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Agreed.

Hey as a Horde fan, I take my wins were I can get them. :sweat_smile:

The only truly required character is Magni, who going by his role as the speaker of Azeroth is a neutral character. Even then, this assumes we keep the “get rid of the diamond dwarf thing” which is really the whole reason he was there to begin with.

A Horde diplomat character could have taken over for Moira, though they’d need to do something to earn the trust of the Earthen. Alleria and Anduin, believe it or not, could be removed from the story without changing much of the outcome. Funnily, the absence of Dagran Jr. would be felt since the Horde doesn’t have enthusiastic scholar characters, though considering Dagran is a new character it would make sense for a brand new Horde character to enter the picture and pick up that role.

You forget the Wrathgate, which lobotomized Varyan and Garrosh, even if Garrosh was becoming a problem as early as the WotLK pre-patch. It’s more factual to say that Blizzard’s attempts at faction conflict end up making characters act like idiots, and that should be reason enough to keep WoW away from faction conflict.

The player character has always been a cardboard cutout with arbitrary levels of involvement. The times they tried to get away from that (Legion and BFA) there were complaints about the PC becoming the chosen one and ridiculous things like the N’zoth-killing kamehame ha.

The War Within has been amazingly dull thus far. In truth, when I first learned the expansion would center around Dwarves my excitement immediately died, but it wouldn’t have been impossible to convert me into a fan had the story been compelling.

Currently, these are my most pressing concerns:

  • Major story moments lack gravitas.
  • Tokenized representation of Horde characters.
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“Could have taken over”. But they didn’t. you needed such a character and, of course, it was an Alliance one. Who does Blizzard thinks speak for all of Azeroth, its not a Horde player. All you are saying is that Blizzard could easily have included a Horde character, but didn’t.

And you don’t even mention Alleria, the main protagonist set up against the main antagonist…

I considered WotLK to so far back that if you have reach that far you are show how ingrained it has become.

When Anduin talks about being a king, that means something to Alliance characters and not Horde characters.

You can try and minimize somethings that you have no worries about not getting, but it changes nothing. In fact, if it is so unimportant, why are you arguing against it. Just agree that you would have no problem with an expansion that is lead by Horde characters and we all can be happy…

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One of my friends who been playing evoker even said after hearing the Novela that: “I think maybe, Thrall does not have a problem with the elements and his powers might have just change. We saw how the Aspectral power came from Azeroth, he was an aspect for a short time and we even have a new Aspect of the Storms… what if something Awaken in Thrall, like how D&D Sorcerers magic or draconic blood is awaken as they grow in level… and Thrall just awaken as an Evoker directly connected to the Power of Azeroth and its Aspects… he look so sick with orc style Evoker customizations and Blizz would not have to give him a Drakthyr form but would probably just draconic visuals just like when DH use their powers or Dracthyr Visage!”

I think this would be a neet way to add Evoker to other races IMO. This is not my idea but it’s something that pop up and we ended up talking after she heard the novela…and since she never post in forums or even reads them unless I show her I though I add it here under this TWW Storyline post. :grin:

I think it’s a unique take on the Thrall situation… that I haven’t read before and I am also dying to get some of those sweet visage customization to other races just like DK and DH have theirs. :dracthyr_heart:

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  • I like the Nerubians
  • I like the Kobolds

Everything else… meh? Anduin’s whole PTSD arch feels a bit trite and is not really compelling, Alleria’s rivalry with Xal’atah feels forced and inorganic and her constant brooding is grating when we haven’t even seen her Void powers have any significant negative impact on her life. Even her zealot husband is totally cool with it, which could’ve actually been an interesting source of conflict.

I still have no idea what Xal’atah is, or what she even wants. She’s just vaguely evil. Hard to get invested in a villain like that. The entire Arathor Empire feels like a huge asspull borderlining on a flat out retcon. Like what, there’s an entire human empire out there that nobody had heard of until now and somehow didn’t get involved in any of the massive world-ending events thusfar? Okay.

Faerin could’ve been cool but

-Making her a Lothar was dumb and pointless
-I don’t like her top fade hairstyle, it feels out of place. She literally has the same hairstyle I do. Like, she’s this survivor battling this desperate battle in these Void caverns but she’s still got an S tier barber to give her a modern haircut. They should’ve given her dreads or just a grown out fro.

Actual dialogue is still as wooden as ever but that’s not really new, though it is almost commendable how they screw up cliches like “heh, I wasn’t aiming for you” ( yeah that line doesn’t work when the thing you were actually aiming for is directly on her chest ).

The novella could’ve been interesting but it got really awful, really fast.

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You should see the type of shape ups the Sacred Flame can help a barber achieve. Honestly, it would be so funny if they released the Arathi and it’s all “They’re intense… and they’re fabulous!!”

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In my humble opinion, We shouldn’t have any characters on the level of Jaina, Malfurion or others. Characters should have short comings, it makes for a better story.

Like in BFA why march an army, when you can take malfurion, Tryande, jaina, and a hand full of other and wipe any army that stands in their way.

Some classes make more sense than others, characters can be OP but they should have short comings or weakness that could be exploited. Let’s take Jaina for example;
have casting time as a weakness, limit mana, even too much mana leading to fel corruptions.
Currently she can freeze an entire ocean, after raiding a horde city and keep going. I do not know what blizzard be thinking half the time.

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“On the next episode of Dragonball Z!”

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kamehameha

in the next exciting episode of dragonballz kamehameha still charging :rofl: