What is the difference between having people 'shard out' compared to having new people 'shard in' down the track?
This idea actually has the same end result...
If i had the option of server clusters that will be merged down the track or sharding for the first 20 levels. i'd pick sharding because i'm only going to be at those low levels for a short period of time.
11/06/2018 08:32 AMPosted by SkjaldbjornThat sounds even dumber.
Unless they run mega servers, sharding won't be needed. If they run vanilla server caps, the starting zones will thin out after a few hours.
The potential problem here with server caps (which I'm not against, btw), is that we might have any given server getting a bunch of people from retail that give it a shot, and then fizzle out after a week or so.
The technical end result is the same, but you don’t have players disappearing and appearing in front of you all the time while you play as you do with sharding. So you get a more immersive and Vanilla like experience.11/06/2018 01:40 PMPosted by AfflextionWhat is the difference between having people 'shard out' compared to having new people 'shard in' down the track?
This idea actually has the same end result...
If i had the option of server clusters that will be merged down the track or sharding for the first 20 levels. i'd pick sharding because i'm only going to be at those low levels for a short period of time.
11/06/2018 09:03 AMPosted by ShrideviThat's stupid. It's the same thing as sharding: we don't see anyone else from the other two "mini" servers.
Dynamic respawns have been proven to be effective over and over again. There isn't even a problem that needs solving. Unless you decide to stop using the very accepted convention of dynamic respawns, which makes absolutely no sense.
dynamic spawns will cause its own set of problems
dynamic spawns are abusable, heavily abusable.
dynamic spawns also mean. "I better get in and out of this cave in 30 seconds"
meaning that there will be times where mobs start to spawn to close behind you, essentially trapping you, which was something that was not part of the vanilla experience. Sharding doesnt have this unfortunate thing tied to it.
11/06/2018 12:35 PMPosted by Shridevi11/06/2018 10:26 AMPosted by InterDynamic respawns have big implications when it comes to farming.
There are disadvantages. I wouldn't consider them big, not as big as sharding's disadvantages at least.
Maybe. Blizz has had to nerf many farms because of dynamic respawns. Its much easier for one player to easily take advantage of dynamic respawns and totally destroy the value of some things. The only way for someone to abuse sharding is by multi-boxing across multiple shards or shard-hop, which sounds much more difficult and less reliable to me. If both of these features are expected to last only a few weeks I believe sharding has much lower risk of totally destroying certain aspects of the economy early on or especially long-term. Dynamic respawn can allow a few players' abuse to quickly do long-term or irreversible damage to the economy.
There isn’t any valuable stuff in the starting zones, so it’s not going to impact the economy. Plus there. will be a huge amount of players to compete with.
11/06/2018 01:40 PMPosted by FacerollSo if Preach says we should have content progression, we should release Naxx on day 1 just to spite him?11/06/2018 10:50 AMPosted by ThelorasTo be perfectly honest, I couldn't care less what Preach has to say about anything Classic/Vanilla...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nostalrius/comments/4etume/preach_claims_support_wasnt_truly_there/
#NeverForget
I'm merely stating the fact that he lost all rights to speak on anything Vanilla/Classic related when he made that video.
He made a complete fool out of himself and is only now coming around like the other "streamers" so that they can make money off of it.
Quick, sound the alarm! Somebody created a video that you didn't like!11/06/2018 02:13 PMPosted by ThelorasI'm merely stating the fact that he lost all rights to speak on anything Vanilla/Classic related when he made that video.
He made a complete fool out of himself and is only now coming around like the other "streamers" so that they can make money off of it.
/rollseyes
11/06/2018 02:28 PMPosted by MellgaQuick, sound the alarm! Somebody created a video that you didn't like!11/06/2018 02:13 PMPosted by ThelorasI'm merely stating the fact that he lost all rights to speak on anything Vanilla/Classic related when he made that video.
He made a complete fool out of himself and is only now coming around like the other "streamers" so that they can make money off of it.
/rollseyes
did you even watch the video bro?
What do you think of the idea, though?11/06/2018 02:13 PMPosted by Theloras11/06/2018 01:40 PMPosted by Faceroll...So if Preach says we should have content progression, we should release Naxx on day 1 just to spite him?
I'm merely stating the fact that he lost all rights to speak on anything Vanilla/Classic related when he made that video.
He made a complete fool out of himself and is only now coming around like the other "streamers" so that they can make money off of it.
Listen, "bro", I don't have to watch EVERY video someone makes. IK who a lot of these Streamers are, but I don't watch their content, all the time. Sure as heck don't hold grudges over silly disagreements, either. Nor bully anyone into oblivion because my feelings were hurt or perhaps some facts were incorrect due to lack of knowledge. No one knows everything. Such a silly standard to hold over people.11/06/2018 02:28 PMPosted by Thelorasdid you even watch the video bro?
-_-
11/06/2018 02:35 PMPosted by MellgaListen, "bro", I don't have to watch EVERY video someone makes. IK who a lot of these Streamers are, but I don't watch their content, all the time. Sure as heck don't hold grudges over silly disagreements, either. Nor bully anyone into oblivion because my feelings were hurt or perhaps some facts were incorrect due to lack of knowledge. No one knows everything. Such a silly standard to hold over people.11/06/2018 02:28 PMPosted by Thelorasdid you even watch the video bro?
-_-
do you see me making videos for which I literally have no possible objective knowledge on or streaming such "facts" and then having others then claim me to be a subject matter expert for such things?
- edit - bro
11/06/2018 02:32 PMPosted by Faceroll<span class="truncated">...</span>What do you think of the idea, though?
I'm merely stating the fact that he lost all rights to speak on anything Vanilla/Classic related when he made that video.
He made a complete fool out of himself and is only now coming around like the other "streamers" so that they can make money off of it.
no, I don't think naxx should be available day 1
just be aware of who the source of information is - Preach completely $hit on Nost when they shut down and claimed there was never enough support for them or Vanilla/Classic to warrant such an investment from Blizzard to reissue it.
Now, all of a sudden he is considered to be an "expert"?!?!?
Naga plz...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nostalrius/comments/4etume/preach_claims_support_wasnt_truly_there/
#NeverForget
That's irrelevant.11/06/2018 02:37 PMPosted by Thelorasdo you see me making videos for which I literally have no possible objective knowledge on or streaming such "facts" and then having others then claim me to be a subject matter expert for such things?
- edit - bro
Either way, it's someine's prerogative to make videos or not. I certainly don't consider anyone an expert in this Game whether they make videos or not. Your issue is with people that hold these individuals to those standards. Content Creators have no control on what people say about them. They're just making videos.
Bro.
EDIT:
Oh no, he was wrong!11/06/2018 02:39 PMPosted by Thelorasno, I don't think naxx should be available day 1
just be aware of who the source of information is - Preach completely $hit on Nost when they shut down and claimed there was never enough support for them or Vanilla/Classic to warrant such an investment from Blizzard to reissue it.
Now, all of a sudden he is considered to be an "expert"?!?!?
Naga plz...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nostalrius/comments/4etume/preach_claims_support_wasnt_truly_there/
#NeverForget
OR, he didn't want to support illegal activity which that's his right. I'm not butthurt about it and heard other Content Creators say the same thing, but I disagreed. It's very possible to disagree without holding grudges. IK, it's difficult.
I mean, supposedly Blizz said they would "NEVER" host legacy servers, right?
"#NeverForgot"
-_-
I meant the serious idea....What do you think of the idea, though?
no, I don't think naxx should be available day 1
just be aware of who the source of information is - Preach completely $hit on Nost when they shut down and claimed there was never enough support for them or Vanilla/Classic to warrant such an investment from Blizzard to reissue it.
Now, all of a sudden he is considered to be an "expert"?!?!?
Naga plz...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nostalrius/comments/4etume/preach_claims_support_wasnt_truly_there/
#NeverForget
11/06/2018 02:43 PMPosted by MellgaThat's irrelevant.11/06/2018 02:37 PMPosted by Thelorasdo you see me making videos for which I literally have no possible objective knowledge on or streaming such "facts" and then having others then claim me to be a subject matter expert for such things?
- edit - bro
Either way, it's someine's prerogative to make videos or not. I certainly don't consider anyone an expert in this Game whether they make videos or not. Your issue is with people that hold these individuals to those standards. Content Creators have no control on what people say about them. They're just making videos.
Bro.
lol ok bro
Glad we talked it out, bro.11/06/2018 02:46 PMPosted by Theloraslol ok bro
Don't forget to read my edit.
Bro.
11/06/2018 02:44 PMPosted by Faceroll...I meant the serious idea.
no, I don't think naxx should be available day 1
just be aware of who the source of information is - Preach completely $hit on Nost when they shut down and claimed there was never enough support for them or Vanilla/Classic to warrant such an investment from Blizzard to reissue it.
Now, all of a sudden he is considered to be an "expert"?!?!?
Naga plz...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nostalrius/comments/4etume/preach_claims_support_wasnt_truly_there/
#NeverForget
- no bs server name/numbering
- set a server cap of 3-4k
- enable a queue if need be
- no sharding