Running harmony + a different set of talent tree than what it suggested on wowhead/serenity.
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I’ve tried different builds but this one eliminates all damage talent points. I can store a good amount of vitality when up against 3+ opponents but anything against single target- the healer is healing me more than the other 3dps. I’m constantly using every charge of Celestial brew to hold back damage but the trade off is using up all my vitality i have stored and its the same process over and over again. By the time i have another charge of Celestial Brew up, i’m already close to dead. I’ve looked into the serenity discord to find help on rotation and what i need to use when up against different opponents but BM still feels like its going to lackluster again in this expansion.
Please give BM a buff 
Is this in heroics?
I do not mean to be rude but these talents seem very sub-optimal.
Quick Footed but no fatal touch?
Chi wave and not Chi Burst?
Black Ox Adept and not WoO?
Fort Brew Determination and not Blackout Combo?
August Blessing and not Shadowboxing Treads
If you are going to put a point in Zen Med make sure you consistently use it. I dont take this talent because I have never really used it or needed it. I find Quick Sip to be far more consistently useful personally.
There are many things you can optimize here for better defense and offense.
Can you upload your gameplay so we can see what is going on? Or at least logs?
Your talents are very suboptimal and suggest a misunderstanding of the class. A lot of our mitigation is also tied up in our offensive abilities. I am not doubting that BM Monk may suck again in M+ but your talents are all over the place. You might want to throw some logs into the discord and see if your rotation can be improved.
unless you are pushing top tier keys then every class is viable. if you love the class you will make it work.
I can look at my BRM setup when i get home later and post a link here. It was working quite well for me in heroics with big pulls.
Not really. If you are fully decked, low-mid keys feel the same for all tanks. But during your progression, the diffence between a meta and a non-meta tank is vastly different.
I woild suggest to play meta class if you want to push as high as possible and your fav class if you just want KSM/KSH and call it a day.
You’re taking enough of the core talents that if you feel like you’re having issues, it’s either a matter of your perception of how things should be, or a matter of just not playing the class properly.
I say that non-judgmentally. Brewmaster has a large tool kit. Step back and make sure you’re making use of it. Leg sweep, ROP, Tigers Lust/Roll/Transcendence all add a lot of clutch survivability to the spec. You also have to make sure you’re just using rotational abilities properly since offensive abilities have defensive components baked in, but also synergize with your brews. Energy starving yourself for example will impinge your ability to purify and use celestial.
If you’re not using the full kit, consider taking some of the passive defensive options to reduce the mental workload and just focus on your movement, positioning, and encounter understanding. Add back Diffuse Magic and Dampen Harm when you actually start to have a use case for more defensive cooldowns.
If that doesn’t improve your experience, then I would level a second tank and compare the two. Healer healing you more than the DPS is really not an indication that anything is out of line tbh- levelling a second tank will either show you that everything is normal, or that you’re just going to have more fun with something else.
not really. at low level content they all feel perfectly fine and if you are struggling it isnt because you arnt playing the meta its because you arnt playing the class correctly. its only when you get to the highest keys that it becomes an issue. doont believe me? watch what the top tier tank players can do on a green and blue geared tank in keys.
Read again. Don’t spit nonsense.
What key ? I supposed you were bullcrapping about naowh doing key 20 in s1 with his geared to teeth group.
It was him playing a freaking broken meta tank, prot war.
And key 20 was typically a mid level key at best.
Do you even read the nonsense you were babbling?
yes i do. and i stand by it if you are struggling with any tank right now you are the problem not the class. also i was refering to when dorki pugged a 20 on a 425 warrior when it was the dh meta.but sure keep huffing your copium that certain tanks are just absolutely horrible and player skill makes no difference.
I said progression during your low to mid key levels (aka, from key 2 to 20 pre s4 or 0 to 12 in s4+).
Do you get a full geared to teeth and world class skilled group to carry your butt when you are in gearing progression with pug ?
When did I say it was impossible for non-meta? I said the difference between a non meta and meta classes is vast.
What tf were you babbling ?
Right now ? Normal/HC rdf ? Who care about this joke content ?
Lol, did you skip your reading class ? It’s never late to learn.
I guess you are a lfr kid seeing something cool by watching streamers and believe you know it all.
really and are we in that content currently? no no we are not. so until we are people dont know how its going to play out. even the top players are unsure of what is going to be the meta still. they have guesses but thats all they are. as it stands with what we know of the beta all the tanks classes will be fine until they actually hit the very high keys.
Kekw, only you are in the current content. People have tested classes on beta for months. Moreover, we were talking about m+, then you brought up tank viability in rdf ?
I was talking about the difference between the meta and non-meta tank. Again ? What are you talking about ? Don’t reply if you can’t read properly.
basically what it comes down to no matter what is that if you are struggling as a tank in low -mid content. that’s a you problem and not the current class issues, this could change if they buff or nerf stuff but currently and going into m+ tanks shouldn’t be struggling to much. i would be more worried about the healers.
Again, my best advice for you is to take a readinf class asap. I was talking about meta and non meta class difference. All of the craps you have spouted was
It has nothing with my statement and it seems to me that you are a lfr streamer fanboy at best.
maybe you should take a page out of your own book since i already covered this. there is no meta currently. easy enough for you to understand or do i need to whip out a picture book for you.
Let’s assume there was no meta currently, then what does it have to do with my statement ? We were talking about m+, not your freaking clown rdf.
And there will be meta when m+ lauches like always since day 1 of wow.
your telling people to play a class that currently doesnt exist and even when the meta is formed people need to understand why a tank is meta not just hurr durrr top players play this class so it must be best for me as well. you play different tanks for different reasons, figure out what you want out of a tank and then play that. people like you who meta munch without understanding the reasons behind the meta just keep saying dumb crap.
I give up. I thought elementary school is mandatory for everyone. But obviously one has missed.