09/11/2018 12:30 PMPosted by
Beraaht
09/11/2018 12:29 PMPosted by
Stehl
My weekly reward is supposed to be a 355, but it popped out as a 345 that warforged to 350.
Actually, I think +2 dropping 350 in the weekly chest is intended, and simply wrong on the wowhead chart. What did the in-game pane say ?
The in-game pane says I will loot a 350 item if I clear a mythic 2 dungeon, which I did. The information in this thread says 355.
The item I got WARFORGED to 350 from a lower number. Meaning it started BELOW what the game and what the devs say. I've put in a ticket.
So why doesn't Azerite gear drop from the end of run chests in Mythic+? I assumed based on beta's weird random extra pieces from the weekly cache that on live you were gonna be guaranteed an Azerite piece in your weekly cache + possibly another non-Azerite piece. Feels pretty bad knowing that as a M+ player I have either pug raids or pray that I get an Azerite piece from the one chance per week cache.
This system does need tweaking with Az armor drops. Not a fan.
09/11/2018 01:32 PMPosted by
Xiata
I didn't get Azerite pieces in my 3 caches across my characters but the three rewards I got were appropriate base ilvl of the level key I completed.
I think what is a little confusing is that the Azerite pieces do have a different ilvl.
I normally don't link to fansites but Wowhead did make a great table to check if you guys have any confusion.
https://www.wowhead.com/news=287074/new-events-in-wow-for-september-11-mythic-uldir-increased-item-level-in-pvp-and-
Posting it here as well for those that don't like to use third party sites:
Keystone Level | End of Dungeon | Weekly Chest | Azerite Armor from Weekly Chest
Mythic 2 | 345 | 355 | 340
Mythic 3 | 345 | 355 | 340
Mythic 4 | 350 | 360 | 355
Mythic 5 | 355 | 360 | 355
Mythic 6 | 355 | 365 | 355
Mythic 7 | 360 | 370 | 370
Mythic 8 | 365 | 370 | 370
Mythic 9 | 365 | 375 | 370
Mythic 10+ | 370 | 380 | 385
...
Only from lower keys.
Two things
A) Who's dumb idea was it to make Azerite armor lower for no reason?
B) Is it to much to ask to ALWAYS get this info posted on the OFFICAL WoW site instead of expecting us to use WoWhead which I haven't touched in years because if it's garbage ads/virus/spyware crap?
This exactly. What an awful system.
So now we basically have a chance of getting a lower ilvl azurite piece until mythic plus 10 where it's 5 ilvls better?
I'm looking to get a more philosophical answer on this at the moment for you guys.
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I'd understand this more if Azerite Items could even drop from the dungeon, but they can't. You should be guaranteed an Azerite piece in your chest on top of normal loot or make it so that Azerite Items can drop in the Dungeon. There's several raid items that have garbage first row traits and there aren't many options around that because of them not being able to drop in M+. Especially with Uldir, there's only 1 piece of Azerite armor in one of the slots for every person of any armor type. Me for example, as a Warrior(in this case any Plate user applied too), only have 1 pair of shoulders off Mythrax. These shoulders have a heavily nerfed trait for Arms(which is worth roughly 300-400 dps), the bad raid zone perk because it takes far too long to stack up the stacks(worth roughly ~350 dps), the Fury Trait which is on the bottom end of all Azerite traits available, and a strong Prot one. I'm not sure the situation for Pallies or DKs, but I would really like a reliable option at trying to get something that doesn't feel terrible to use.
I only did a +2 this week, but I got a 350 weapon with no secondary stats?
I dunno how to feel about this.
Wait, three caches?
Mythic+, Arenas and what other cache?
My bad, I meant my three characters. Edited for clarity.
What about arenas pulling 340 gear from their cache?
09/11/2018 01:37 PMPosted by
Popo
this whole thing seems so insane to me. I did a plus 2 expecting a 355 ivl item and instead i got a 340 piece i dont even need. Its almost like i got punished for only getting a plus 2 in
It seems to me you dropped the soap and were stupid enough to bend over to pick it up.
Oh hey, a blue name decided to post...
I only did a +2 this week, but I got a 350 weapon with no secondary stats?
I dunno how to feel about this.
Some weapons have a proc instead of secondaries.
What about the fact people were expecting 1-3 pieces and no one has confirmed anything over 1.
I'm fairly sure that was for testing purposes. The intent was for it to always work like it did in Legion.
It was never going to work like in legion - in legion we were hoping for a relic, and that's only
1/3rd of a weapon.
In BfA we've cranked the uncontrollable variability up to eleven by giving giving a chance at a whole weapon or the tier-replacement pieces.
Or if you're unlucky, you can get a ring... a 380 ilvl ring has 423 points of secondary stats on it, a 370 has 405.
If your best two stats are worth 1 point and your next best are worth a (reasonably close) 0.95 points, a bad 380 is worse than a good 370 (423 * 0.95 = 401.85 vs 405). And there are specs with much lower valued worst secondaries than that...
This isn't even taking into account the time gating. At least in legion your could grind a dungeon for a chance at titanforging your 1/3rd of a weapon up to weekly cache standards. It was a pain, but you could.
We don't even have that much control in BfA.
TL;DR it's a dog's breakfast of variability. Cutting down the chance of extra drops in the cache has made it even worse, not better.
09/11/2018 01:27 PMPosted by
Hirai
So.... in response to the Blizz post:
My Main Horde Character, a Paladin, has not done a single Level 120 dungeon yet.
She had all three 340 Azerite Pieces of gear on her just from Emissary Caches.
You're trying to tell me that someone who did Mythic, and got a Key, and then did Mythic+3 deserves to get the same item-level armor as me, someone who never touched a single dungeon at all?
I'm not a Mythic Dungeon player, but dude, if I were getting 340 Azerite out of my weekly chest, I would be pissed.
This is not the way you should be doing such rewards.
Yep this was me. Not happy.
I can't wait to get another piece of 340 gear from the heroic raid reward chest that you get for completely 4 mythic dungeons.
09/11/2018 02:08 PMPosted by
Drako
I can't wait to get another piece of 340 gear from the heroic raid reward chest that you get for completely 4 mythic dungeons.
I swear if that happens, I'm done.
What about the fact people were expecting 1-3 pieces and no one has confirmed anything over 1.
I'm fairly sure that was for testing purposes. The intent was for it to always work like it did in Legion.
Don't you think this should have been communicated well and truly before today? Wowhead and pretty much every other fan site have been reporting a chance for 1-3 piece's of gear for what seems like a very long time and blizzard only now corrects that after the first cache drops??? There is no way of farming Azerite pieces of an appropriate level unless you raid or get lucky with your
ONE piece of gear from the cache.
I guess you can get gear from the warfronts but once again it's low level :/
I remember reading this post on WoWhead 7 days ago so i had to go back and dig it up
"Weekly Challenger's Chest
The Weekly Challenger's Chest can now contain up to 3 items. The number of items is completely random! As you can't farm Mythic+ for Azerite Armor and Weapons can't Titanforge, hope for a Weapon or Azerite Armor (or multiple) from your Weekly Chest!
One week, you could get a single ring, while another week you could get a weapon, and two Azerite pieces!"
...
I'm fairly sure that was for testing purposes. The intent was for it to always work like it did in Legion.
It was never going to work like in legion - in legion we were hoping for a relic, and that's only 1/3rd of a weapon.
In BfA we've cranked the uncontrollable variability up to eleven by giving giving a chance at a whole weapon or the tier-replacement pieces.
Or if you're unlucky, you can get a ring... a 380 ilvl ring has 423 points of secondary stats on it, a 370 has 405.
If your best two stats are worth 1 point and your next best are worth a (reasonably close) 0.95 points, a bad 380 is worse than a good 370 (423 * 0.95 = 401.85 vs 405). And there are specs with much lower valued worst secondaries than that...
This isn't even taking into account the time gating. At least in legion your could grind a dungeon for a chance at titanforging your 1/3rd of a weapon up to weekly cache standards. It was a pain, but you could.
We don't even have that much control in BfA.
TL;DR it's a dog's breakfast of variability. Cutting down the chance of extra drops in the cache has made it even worse, not better.
Someone else got burned by a ring. I am sorry.
My biggest problem with this whole thing is i was expecting a azerite piece in there. Look at it this way if there isnt a azerite in the chest we have what 4 or 5 in however many pieces in the total mythic loot pool based on the traits you want of gear in total to get a up grade for a azerite armor. The fact that the raid azerite stuff doesnt have the best stuff for even raiding, because lets face it azerite stuff is broken and stupid and all people gonna stack traits. So here we are waiting for a piece of gear that has a super low drop chance 'ONCE' a week. This is as bad as if not worse then legendaries. Thing is if we are not getting atleast 1 azerite piece per week we are in for putting on lower ilvl gear which is specifically what you dont want us to do.
09/11/2018 02:08 PMPosted by
Drako
I can't wait to get another piece of 340 gear from the heroic raid reward chest that you get for completely 4 mythic dungeons.
Considering the fact that heroic gear is 370 baseline, that's not possible.
09/11/2018 02:08 PMPosted by
Drako
I can't wait to get another piece of 340 gear from the heroic raid reward chest that you get for completely 4 mythic dungeons.
Considering the fact that heroic gear is 370 baseline, that's not possible.
Is there an emissary?
Where do you pick up the quest?