Yeah it was worse in Legion when there were more mounts to fawn after. Farondis took me 24, Valarjar 35, and Dreamweavers a combined 40 between two characters.
Pretty sure the point of the message was to illustrate how stupid and frustrating the paragon rep system is to begin with, especially for collectors.
people are getting fed up with their hamster wheel systems that their carrot needs “bad luck protection” system in order to gain atention.
the achievement and the title is for extreme dedicated people… again this does nothing for the average player that with alot of time invested get the first paragon box just to be suprised with some resources at least the gold is decent.
(Query): Can we get the same applied to the Vinyl: Triumph of Gnomeregan and Blueprint: Emergency Rocket Chicken?
(Commentary): Quite sick and tired of these two items being the only thing keeping me from completing Mecha-Done.
By the sound of it, it’s bad luck protection. The chances go up every time you open a chest until you get it.
It’s about freaking time. I have opened 12 Mechagon caches and received 0 of the Rank 4s for my class (and had been eligible for all 3 every time). About 10 of the Unshackled ones as well as 5+ Rajani/Uldum Accord. I have a total of 1 rank 4 from reputation (Uldum Accord only).
Legion Paragon boxes were annoying, but there are easy sources to gain insane amounts of rep with little effort for Legion (Order Hall missions). There is no way to gain reputation for BFA Paragons that doesn’t involve lots of actual work.
They finally add a BLP system to BFA, and it’s for cosmetic rewards.
That’s just perfect.
Wait, we are still supposed to be doing 8.2 content…I figured you guys had forgotten about it.
How about making these things actually relevant, instead of a grind fest.
WHAT IS THIS BAD LUCK PROTECTION?!?! 
good now start selling rank 1,2 of essences on vendors or make their catches up faster from places like Eternal palace and bodyguard exp in Nazjatar for new and returning players
3 questions.
Is this because you intend to remove access to said rng items altogether (meaning no way to get rank 4s) when shadowlands prepatch/expansion starts?
Are there any plans to give raid wide acquisition of the mythic azshara essence OR grandfathered acquisition provided players earn the mythic azshara achievement prior to prepatch/expansion launch? Meaning you had killed the boss when it was “current content” but won’t be locked out of acquisition cause limited clear attempts? Of which a rank 4 essence falls easily way lower than either the glacial tidestorm or the ny’alotha allseer.
Is there any intention or possibility at being able to cosmetically change our spells to look like equivalent rank 4 spells? Meaning purification protocol rank 4 being used in place of solar beam for boomkins? Y’all are on a really big roll for customization in shadowlands and I think cosmetic/spell flair could be one extra avenue to expand that trend (sort of like green fire)! This could also draw people to come back to BFA content in shadowlands when they hit a lull in content. Give them something to work on. I remember y’all saying something in the Q&As at Blizzcon about rank 4s (and the heart of azeroth only becoming depowered in shadowlands content). Would be interesting to have such a fundamental system not be entirely stripped from the game once that expansion is over. Give a bit of parallel growth for players to go after (and not just active in timewalking/level-scaled/party sync scenarios)!
And if y’all hadn’t thought of those things, it would be cool to talk with y’all or hear the wow team’s perspective on the above points.
Awesome, thanks for this!
Came here just to thank you Blizz but these comments have great points. Maybe we can get some bad luck protection for other things such as mount farming and other cosmetics from paragon boxes.
2400 Raiting in pvp as well Don’t forget Conflict and Strife rank 4. Also its not just get those M boss Kills. Only 2 people out of the whole raid get the rank 4 essesense so that weeks of farming it if you have bad RNG. On top of Say an off spec like tank or heals or both . . . nightmare if you ask me.
Or be a druid and require tank, heal, and DPS. RIP.
What about the one from islands?
Any changes being made for some of the other obnoxious ones? Like 100k Honor being absolutely ridiculous or 25 Supply Chests in Nazjatar while being an Assassin?
its to get people online and interested in emissaries. I havent willingly done emissaries on my main (who has bis corruption) in months, i only do gold when it pops. This change wont make me do them anyway
Of course not, they don’t actually care if players get the achieve/title. They just want us grinding away at WQs and emissaries in 8.2 zones (which probably have fallen in use considerably) and 8.3 zones because they’re the current stuff.
The fact that this will get some players the achieve/title is a nice bonus they can pat themselves on the back for.
I really don’t like these sorts of changes. All it does it deter people from working on things to start with because why waste time when it will be easier later.
Plus this is straight cosmetic, you just open yourself to a floodgate of other requests now.
That’s a very good change! Some Rank 4 Essences are pretty cool, but we barely get to see them.
While we are discussing making Rank 4 more plausible to obtain, I’d suggest lowering the requirements for Conflict and Strife Rank 4.
Right now, this essence requires you to get Elite rank (2400 rating) on competitive PvP. This is insurmountably harder than getting any other essence, because it requires you to play one of the specs in the meta, have a lot of specific gear/corruptions and lot of skill, of course.
My suggestion would be to, instead, make the Rank 4 require only Duelist rank (2100 rating). This allows the grind to be much more available without removing its prestige (since getting past 2000 rank is never an easy feat).
imagine thinking that the majority actually cares about this changes or even will be encouraged to go for that achievement after this changes…
but sure that’s like your opinion again…