Only 3 million level 120 characters, CHARACTERS

Wylkanth-frostwolf · April 16, 2019, 8:29pm

…and here I was getting ready to liquidate my assets and move to Alaska.

Nightmove-ghostlands · April 16, 2019, 9:06pm

Currently there’s a whole bunch of other reasons in the world that should make you want to do that!

Sieten-ragnaros · April 16, 2019, 9:38pm

If we consider EU we could estimate almost 1.2 million individual players
There’s also multiboxers inflating the player count with fake-positives too!
So, NA + EU = About one million

Cilivia-illidan · April 16, 2019, 9:40pm

It’s still 20Millions MRR for Blizzard, without taking into account cash shop. Still impressive.

Sieten-ragnaros · April 16, 2019, 9:52pm

Impressive indeed
But there’s another thing we have to consider!
It’s around 1.2 million players between NA+EU who reached 120.
But are they active? If so, how many of them?

Cilivia-illidan · April 16, 2019, 9:56pm

I think the number of actives subs is going down.

I base it on my own observations while looking for a PuG group for a raid or M+.

Last Friday was the first time EVER I was looking through PuG raid listing (Around 9pm) and I didn’t applied to ANY groups :

Fewer groups than before
Some were too far into BoD
Some were fresh
Not ONE group on the boss I wanted

It’s the first time it happened since BFA lunch.

Same for M+. I have a holly pally around ilvl 393. I was looking for something in the +5 - +7 range. (Excluding my personal Blacklist for donjons) : Not one group.

Ghmaviandiir-dentarg · April 17, 2019, 3:02am

So giving BFA the most generous outlook would put its max sub numbers around 7 million counting NA and EU; unless you think there’s millions of twinks that don’t have a max level character. Lets be really 7 million is highly unlikely. Realmpop numbers are probably reliable given their data collection methods; you would have to be an extreme outlier, not being in a guild and never posting to the auction house, to avoid being left out. There are multiple problems with estimating sub numbers given how an account could be represented 50 times, alts, and doesn’t tell us if the characters are even still active. This cannot give us a clear picture but it does give us a range to work with and make assumptions based on.

Ríverdown-wyrmrest-accord · April 17, 2019, 10:26am

Does this data count unsubbed 120s?

Nozfuratu-zangarmarsh · April 17, 2019, 10:41am

So the number fits exactly where people have been estimating for the past 6 months.

Elfina-deathwing · April 17, 2019, 10:44am

3 million? Where did you get that number from?

Laplotte-garithos · April 17, 2019, 10:52am

Nah nah nah hey hey good bye Ion

Mightylink-shadowsong · April 17, 2019, 1:42pm

I doubt theres “millions” of active accounts after BfA, its just the game has gotten so easy at this point the few people left behind are leveling new characters to 120 one after another, that’s why the realm cap was raised to 50 recently, Blizzard knows this, they are the only ones with the real numbers.

Locgar-the-scryers · April 17, 2019, 2:03pm

i got 3 120’s so subtract at least 2 from that 3m.

Auriga-ysera · April 18, 2019, 5:14am

None of us truly know what the subs are, but anyone who logs into this game knows BFA has been a gamechanging loss of interest magnitudes more than we have ever seen.

I’m personally a sad puppy that BFA is such a dumpster fire after a long run of outstanding creative content that enthralled so many of us. I can’t even get myself to log on because I know I will see at most 1 guildie online per non-raid night, in a guild that has been large, vibrant and thriving from Vanilla through Legion. Most nights, literally no one is on. People I talk to in RL not on my server or in my guild, are all saying the same thing.

I honestly wish they could get their mojo back, but let’s face it, at this point it would take the all time comeback of electronic games to get this game back to a good spot. I fear after such a long run, the fun is over

Azuremi-proudmoore · April 18, 2019, 5:21am

I only have 1 level 120 character.

Thequixote-staghelm · April 18, 2019, 8:15pm

The method used, people who have used the AH and their guild roster seems like a it’s going to be a fairly accurate count of every toon that’s made it to 120 since 8.0.

Unique toons that have used the AH in the last month is probably a good count of active subscribed and playing accounts. Just don’t see a lot of players not using the AH on at least one alt in a month. In fact it might over report some for players that use the AH on multiple alts instead of just one.

But counting the guild rosters. It’s anecdotal evidence but for my guild only about 15-25% of our 120 roster has logged on in the last month and isn’t an alt. If that’s normal we’d be looking at well under a million subs for NA.

Hermíone-aggramar · April 18, 2019, 9:12pm

I know the feeling. I have 3 at 120, hubby has 4, kids each have 1. By the end of legion hubby and I each had 13 max, youngest had 14 and oldest had 6. Not happening anytime soon this go around.

Sieten-ragnaros · April 18, 2019, 9:14pm

I have 19 110s
Leveling in Legion wasn’t horrible like in BFA and I had more free time too.
I have 6 120s and would have 9 if I wasn’t so busy with real life.

Beatricia-azuremyst · April 18, 2019, 9:36pm

Only 3 million level 120 characters, CHARACTERS

Yet another ugly rumor. Who told you that “realmpop” included ALL players and ALL characters in the game? It doesn’t.

Read the fine print at realmpop dot com. It even says " This does not mean the number of players, nor the number of actively played characters."

I have 34 level 110-120 characters, and only 2 of those 34 are listed in realmpop.

Sieten-ragnaros · April 19, 2019, 1:05am

If you’re below 120 you don’t count, sorry :<