Once again, the hardest boss in the hardest difficulty of the raid is cleared before we're even allowed to attempt the fourth boss of the easiest difficulty

Are these arguments why LFR shouldnt release sooner? I dont think so.

Good because I say so.

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LFR is content designed for a specific demographic, ie non-raiders.

Your armory does not show you to be in any position to declare superiority over people who do LFR.

No, they are arguments for doing the content you claim to be blocked from doing.

Go do LFR right now for the entire raid to prove to us that no one is blocked from it. I dare you.

Edit: I disagree. You havent explianed why you agree with LFR being 'blocked" as you confusingly put it.

Better than most people in this thread xD

and with the addons I mentioned, you literally do not need to be a raider to clear a normal.

Not even with a guild. I’ve been pugging and we can clear the first three bosses faster than the LFR wing can be cleared.

:neutral_face::expressionless::man_facepalming:

Nobody is blocked from doing a normal, which is about the same difficulty and awards better gear.

Then why have you not cleared normal? Do you not have addons?

But they are blocked from doing LFR when it is not yet released.

Guess you don’t have addons.

Guild raid times per week is 2.5 hours.

Oh. So you’re a raid logger, a player who doesn’t like most of the game, but lectures people who play a variety of content that they’re playing wrong.

Hey I know you wanted a chicken sandwich but here, have this tuna - they are about the same. Deal with it.

is that why I’m in Torghast right now?
Or why I enjoy doing M+ and mount farming?

Good to know you have zero ground to stand on and are using baseless accusations.

For the people who are like “just pug normal, its not that hard”, thats garbage.

I am a pug raider through and through. I do have some friends that i help theyre guild runs, but i pug my personal progress through raids most of the time. Look at wipecounts.

Especially early on, pugs are kind of hard.

  1. The biggest hurdle week 1 was darkvein and then council
  2. The biggest hurdles (full cleared week 2 on normal) were council, a little bit on sludge, and then denathrius.
  3. This week, the hurdle seemed to be council and denathrius.

Content is normal is generally easy, but the hard part is finding the people to do it as a pug raider. I get why lfr exists. Just saying normal is easy isnt a good answer. It does take some commitment to pug.

However, i do 100% agree with lfr gating. For those who havent had the chance to fight denathrius in an actual raid, the gating gives them time to do so without going into tour mode.

For those who are like “we cant even attempt” lfr… like stop pretending that it is not gonna be cleared hours (if that) after release. Its tourmode. The canisters in darkvein take care of rhemselves. Its gonna be sad to see how they gut denathrius.

Your response wins, sir/madam. :rofl: :rofl:

As to the person they quipped to… I raided with my guild on Tuesday and Wednesday and managed to down 8 bosses (Shriekwing on Heroic). These were also the first instances in which I ran the raid. :man_shrugging:t2:

Find some cool people you get along with that raid on your available time blocks, and you’ll spend immensely less time in the raid, as if you were doing LFR instead. That, and the rewards are greater too. Some food for thought. :ok_hand:

Youre guild is only doing normal and you havent cleared it yet.

Heroic and Mythic are out. How come you arent doing those tiers? Because its too difficult for you all.

Well, guess what. Thats the same for normal for many players. LFR is easier(curse you ny’alotha).

Just like you wouldnt want to be shoved into Heroic, LFR players dont want to be shoved into Normal.

Does that make sense? The LFR is horribly time gated.

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I literally shoved myself into pugging heroic last night for eight hours. I’ve even made a thread about it.