Okay so you can delete normal mode raids now

Is that the fiery proto-drake one?

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Remove mythic raiding for player housing pls.

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Why is it people seem to want to remove things? Like just cause you don’t do it doesn’t mean others don’t. Let others have their content. Just do what content you want.

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This entire thread is just a handful of competitive players failing to understand or fathom why someone might not be as competitive as they are.

This is a very common occurrence for these types of discussions. Same thing happens in PVP topics.

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Yeah my guild does.

We often have an alt night where we bring alts to normal for fun. Usually after we finish AotC.

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If any difficulty were removed it would more likely be the current version of Mythic. I’m not saying it should be, but which difficulty probably has the lowest completion rate and uses up the most resources to tune?

What percentage of players raid with the intention of clearing Mythic? Not counting Heroic guilds that kill the first easy bosses on Mythic each tier. What’s the average “life expectancy” of a Mythic raider? Burnout is high in my experience.

IMO just need 3 tiers:

LFR - no need to interact with anyone, queue and have fun hitting bosses.

Normal - raid with friends, laugh if you die to something silly and still kill the boss. The
PUG friendly difficulty.

Heroic - Challenging, requires coordination. Difficulty gradually decreases over the
season as average ilevel goes up. Race to finish ahead of other guilds.

I think the reason we have 4 tiers is that Blizz wants players to always have another step up to keep them playing longer into the season.

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I realize you think you taught yourself to be an expert raider with no help from anyone. But the fact is that normal raiding guilds are where people go to learn how to raid. No heroic or mythic guild would accept an applicant as a raider who had never set foot in a raid. Those guilds aren’t there to teach people how to raid. They want applicants who already know more than the basics.

I sure have. I think you haven’t been paying attention because you aren’t looking for an all-purpose guild. Guilds like this don’t say “AotC” or “Mythic raiding” in their ads.

I think the reason is purely esports, the idea that the glorious future of wow is getting all players to accept esports and magically become competitive.

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Hard disagree. LFR is for people that never raid but want to see the raid. Normal is useful and easier imo(less wipes).

If anything, get rid of mythic raiding and make the last heroic boss harder. Mythic raiding is getting old. Especially with these outdated non telegraphed mechanics.

Normal mode used to be FLEX - but now normal and heroic already is FLEX so there is no need for normal mode.

delete LFR already.

Thats just your opinion. LFR sees a lot play time. That would be a terrible decision. A lot of people pay a sub just to check out the raid in LFR. Never gonna happen.

More people play LFR than Mythic.

of course.

more people eat cheese than caviar.

Why do you want to get rid of cheese? Sounds to me you’re just a hater. LFR is going no where. If anything, mythic needs to be removed and the last couple heroic bosses need to be harder. This whole attempt at esports is failing miserably.

I gotta bail. Enjoy your day broski.

once you get used to the salty taste of caviar, it’s just hard to go back to that wretched abomination…

and deep inside, i wish to share the enlightened blessings of the caviar with others who are now as i once were, and whom I KNOW beyond all doubt, 100% as a fact that would enjoy the ascension to the level of Caviar.

I am helpful to others like that. i don’t want to see them stuck with foul cheese when they could back in the glory of caviar.

It’s the little things i do to give back to the community. Once you ascend to my level, you too will be looking for such opportunities of philanthropy.

Great question. glad I could answer.

haha <3

/10char

No.

LFR

Normal

Heroic

Should all stay as they are.

Mythic

Should all stay as is. They should

Good luck trying to make a transition for a raid tier that basically is “Ignore mechanics because they don’t really matter” to a tier were they not only matter but failing them could wipe the raid.

Karazhan?

/10chars

It’s all about the path of least resistance. People will more than likely just quit. If they were interested in the higher difficulties, they would be doing them.

Normal and LFR should be consolidated, like what they’re doing with M0 and Heroic Dungeons.

Normal, non-queueable for guild runs, and a Normal Raid Queue to replace LFR.

They’re both easy, for learning.

With the number of people clearing nythic they should just remove that tbh