It was 1000% damage increase which yes, was a lot but it didn’t matter. A painful 90% slow kept that in check. Yeah you’d cream people at 500 rating because they don’t know how to walk away but other than that it required massive setup.
Now it’s 400% and doesn’t really do real damage anymore. It’s alright if you do a fullsetup with a teammate and cleave, but nothing major. People can face tank it and kill you instantly. Also with that slow you’re getting kited very, very easily.
Since I highly doubt they’d increase the damage back, and since you removed out winter stun, just remove the tie to Pillar of Frost, and make the baseline R. Winter 150% increased size and 400% increased damage without a movement penalty.
Because if you didn’t know without the stun, R winter is literally a joke of an ability in pvp. It’s designed for M+. This talent was supposed to make it good
I do 100% agree I would like seeing that ability for PvE option instead of PvP talent slot. Maybe in the future expac like how they remove abomination then shortly came back but in unholy talent tree. However, Devs in general were cranking down with stuns /fears because was"too op" but never fix the main issue how range clothed wearers/healers are big headache to deal with even with stuns/silence isn’t enough since it is just 3-4 secs duration
I dont care if I dont play PvP, I dont care if I dont play the game. That talent needs to stay in PvP where it belongs.
“Ive forgotten or ignored about all the people asking to be a slow juggernaut and now im denying people asked for it!”
Thats what you just did. People have been asking to be like Arthas in HoR for years and the moment you guys get what you asked for “this is so bad!” Maybe stop saying “you dont do this or that” and start listening to people when they warn you about the ideas you guys are putting forward.
“I dont understand the concept of wanting to do something” Cant help you there dude.
You arent advocating for better changes. You are advocating for people to be forced to use BoS by making it baseline because you think the choice is still Obliteration or BoS, and then you make this suggestion of making this talent a pve talent. 2 suggestions made by you which are 100% BAD.
Of course they are wrong, I said that slow juggernaut crap is bad and no one would like it YEARS ago and it took you guys actually getting what you have been asking for to see that its bad. Sorry that you guys have to work through trial and error, but most people dont. Its common sense. If people are already crashing out over having 2 DA’s, a speed boost on DA and Wraith Walk and how DK’s are slow… why even entertain the idea of a slow juggernaut? It never existed.
I don’t think Death’s Cold Embrace needs the cripple after the damage nerf especially in comparison to other classes in their damage windows.
Let other classes do their jobs slowing your movement speed to counter it. Its unfortunate because Frost would actually be in a good place if it weren’t for that one huge flaw.
Because people major complain about was stun locks so they nerf all the stuns/silence for measly 3 secs only but don’t nerf heals/ casters since they are heavily over tune
