Half the team having an on demand fear break by default is a lot better than two per dwarf priest.
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Debatable, id rather be immune to fear for 30 seconds rather than break it once and be feared again immediately after
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You’re not immune to fear for 30 seconds the moment the first one hits it’s gone. UD racial makes you immune to being hit by one again right after.
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For 5 seconds. So you cast a fear wait then cast another. Its really not hard. The same way i have to sit on my hands when fighting a dwarf because hes gonna pop my blind. Or if im fighting a pally i have to time all my cds perfectly because they have 2 immune bubbles a 6 second stun and sometimes even a full hp heal. Its called learning how to counter your opponent
I wouldn’t go the road of changing goal posts. That’s not a good look.
What you did was make up some fictitious number based off of your bias personal experiences. What I did was actually numerically breakdown the chances of picking one race. Since their are 4 races on the selection screen, if all things are equal that’s a 25 percent base chance that the individual “happens” to select undead.
lol…You see the difference here right? Oh god. You probably don’t.
Sure his job is to pay attention as a healer. But what if he already cast it on the 8 other people in the match?
You are trying to argue the advantage of being SELF RESPONSIBLE for your own fear break versus relying on someone else who might not even have picked the right combination of class/race.
Kid. Please. Stop. You look bad here. I was wrong. Go back to moving the goal posts and talking about paladins.
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Because you know waiting in pvp totally is a viable strategy. Even the pally information is incorrect you know forbearance is a thing right? The full hp heal also destroys your mana bar meaning your useless after using it and that’s if you have it off CD it’s 40 minutes with two talent points. The six second stun that’s also on a massive CD and can be dispelled you aware you’re playing a class with a ton of stuns? If you’re struggling to beat a paladin at 60 when gear sucks for them it’s definitely a you issue.
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You mean like the way you did by dropping all my other arguments and focusing ONLY on WOTF.
I was referring to how you said 75% of all statistics are made up while using a statistic in the very same sentence. I know reading is hard youll get the hang of it one day.
Still waiting on a reply to the other 2/3 - 3/4 of my argument about the other racials but yes. Continue on about WOTF
Well aware. Paladins still have more than enough in their kit to stall to be able to cast the second bubble.
Which is why its typically used at the end of a fight when things are getting close. And if you have LoH that means youre ret and i HIGHLY doubt youd be considered useless. Pretty sure your autos still hurt pretty bad.
1 minute is massive IK. But 2 minutes on WOTF is also not massive.
Its almost like fears cant be dispelled and WOTF is the only thing that can break them. Crazy…OH WAIT
Which are gimped by 2 bubbles paladins have the options of using. Also im not a plate class, i dont have healing abilities, and i cannot become immune to damage.
Less of “struggle” more of they have so much in their kit that in a wpvp situation its very likely someone else shows up. In a bg sitaution its very like that someone else shows up.
Ive also literally been 100-0 in a 6 second pally stun. Pallys arent as bad as youre making them out to be.
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Well we can talk about something else if you want? You’ve lost the WOTF is the same as fearward argument. So I’m fine moving on to something else.
THAT WAS THE JOKE. That expression has been used to showcase the ridiculousness of just tossing in a percentage arbitrarily based off of no facts and only bias. It’s very commonly used. Get up to speed here, kid.
Sure let’s talk about them? Wanna talk about how Escape artist with a cast time is weaker than WOTF? Wanna talk about how stone form removing bleeds for 6 is mostly situational? Wanna talk about warstomp? Diplomacy? Wisp form? Where would you like to go from here?
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Sorry wasnt aware of that but
Youre assuming classes and races are picked at random on a game thats been released for 15 years. But then also assuming that i picked UD + Rogue because the game has been out for 15 years. And also assuming 50% of horde is UD because they are aware of the racial. HMMMMMMMMMMmm
LOL a mere 1 second cast. but also
How is this situational but WOTF isnt?
“if we remove favoritism.” Clearly this time around you see more of a favoritism towards Undead an Orc. But again, this is a difference between a base choice to that of a base choice as well as a secondary choice.
It’s not a discussion. You will see more Undead anything than you will a dwarf priest.
Yes. It is. (and it’s actually just a .5 second cast) but it still is just enough time to gain distance as a mage. Making escape artist useless. It’s not like WOTF where you lose maybe half a step.
They are both situational, one just happens more and is more effective to the encounter than the other.
See not all things are “same but equal” sorry to say.
It’s a select few special horde who seem to ignore everything, usually it’s the same posters.
Id argue there are very few fights where i felt WOTF won me a fight. There are more than 9000 fights where i felt like removing a root would have won me a fight
It’s not gonna win ya anything if your opponent brings nets or a sapper or FAP or any other number of consumables. The point is that it’s nice to have and is USEFUL in more situations. Same as your free bandage. More useful than say…pretty much anything in a human tool kit.
Or dwarf.
Or Gnome.
Or NE.
The entire PvP gameplay revolves around CC. And fear is the best CC in the game. And you get a free get out of jail card on it.
Please google ‘how to win Alterac Valley guide for Wow Classic’ and tell us where in it does it talk about defending your last graveyard? We’ll all wait for your reply with the correct response of “it doesn’t say to do that which is why we lost a lot more than we won”
Fear ward requires a specific class and race and is dispellable. If you think shammys aren’t purging the heck out of casters, you would be wrong.
Doesn’t WotF break fear and charm as well as give a 5 second immunity?
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Aside the issues of Horde spawning in the cave when they have other GY’s available giving them reinforcements higher than they should in certain parts of the map – the alliance willingness to win is the key to victory.
The oddities with Van’s marshalls being so passive is a proble, that could be fixed by making their idle position closer to hte door like in drek’s room, but I think that is the tradeoff between having a more defensible base compared to the horde’s wide open and useless towers.
Thank you op for trying new strategy instead of 100% blaming the map.
Winrate went from 1% to a 13% with a 5 man premade leading.
This means 5/40 of the people were coordinated and they saw a winrate jump of 12%
Now let’s assume half of the 35 other people actually listened to their leader ship. That puts it at about 20/40 of the alliance actually working together and using strategy.
So if half of the alliance try to WIN, it jumps their winrate by over 1000%.
With this data it shows something very important. While the map may contribute to the hordes winrate, the highest factor of the winrate is the lack of alliance attempting to win.
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL im done biggest troll post of 2020
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SF should be central to both factions.
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Dying at SFGY when assaulted shouldn’t send us to AS if SHGY isn’t blue.
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SHB shouldn’t give horde a headstart on offense.
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Ivus summoning location needs to be as well protected as Lok’s.
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Alliance gys need to be more open instead of a cove that’s easy to get pinned in.
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Backdoors to DB need fixed.
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name me another CC that’s better.
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