This is what I keep saying every time someone points out how AMD isn’t competitive…
They have no reason to compete at the high end when they can swoop in and dominate at the low and middle end.
They effectively (performance-wise) have dominated the low end market with the RX 570/580, now the mid-range market with the $269 RX 5600 XT, and the mid-range market with the $370 RX 5700 XT.
So what if Nvidia has a 2080 ti at $1300?
Looks like Nvidia didn’t want to get shown up by Big Navi or Consoles. The Cuda core counts are absolutely insane.
If someone showed me their slides before the reveal, I would have put them on ignore for fake leaks.
IF they really do position the 3070 in the 500 range, that could spell trouble for AMD Big NAVI though. They would need to have something readily able to compete at that level for the price point.
Yeah, I’ve said it in the other thread, this will be hard for AMD to counter.
I’m going to say that nvidia will win this round in the upper midrange and higher segments, especially with competent RTX.
The $350 and under category where Nvidia will just do GTX, AMD will compete well.
Yeah, this is what gets me looking at my 2070 and wondering what I’ll do. I don’t like buying early - they are likely to announce a 3060 and then we might also be getting the ti’s and Super’s …
The 2060, if I recall correctly, showed up months after the 2070 and 2080.
Nvidia was clear that, just as they don’t intend to have “ti” cards for the 3x series… it appears they are limiting the stack of sku’s for 3x series.
In a way, this makes sense. By not crowding the market at every single tier… They can focus both production and cost recoup through a limited series of cards.
I have said in other places (perhaps not these forums) that Nvidia likely made a choice to cede the low ground (power efficiency, budget buyers) and focus on cards that give people performance and power. By only running 3 sku’s, they can do that… and they can use those 3 tiers to choke out upper end competition by making price slashes as competition goes out. This also helps the AIB’s as they can focus on making catered cards within those 3 and charge appropriately.
It’s scummy, but smart. Heck, even I am looking sideways at the 3070… Wondering if AMD will have an answer. If their answer isn’t enough, then when gigabyte makes their windforce 3070… I’ll end up replacing my 1660ti.
Absolutely blown away by what I watched. 3070 with better performance than the 2080ti for $500? Are you serious!?
If I bought a 2000x card this year I would be nauseous right now!
Why Nvidia lower their prices so much compared to last gen? Trying to go ahead and put AMD graphics division in the grave?
It’s a double edged sword for AMD. One look at STEAM hardware and you see one out of every five video cards is a GTX1060, GTX1050ti, or GTX1050. Next up is a bunch of Nvidia cards like the GTX 1660(super&ti) & GTX1070. Nvidia’s flagships dominate and consumers then believe the entire line is dominating AMD…and from a business standpoint it’s working.
A lot of it is marketing and brand loyalty.
People continued to buy 1050 ti’s for the price of RX 570s despite the 570 being vastly superior for gaming.
some people like the fact the GTX1050ti gets all it’s power from the pcie slot (not all of them so do your research) so no need for an external power connector. We see the anxiety some people get when it comes to tinkering with their PC so the less steps the better for certain people buy yes, the AMD470/570 is the better card in terms of performance.
I get that, they’re also more likely to be compatible with repurposed office PCs, so in conjunction with using less power, something like the 1050 ti is a good match for that system.
However, we both know there are die-hard brand loyalists who will cling to their desired brand despite objective reasoning not to.
Same goes for Intel users.
I loved my GTX 1050ti and it still has a home in my old PC that is now hooked up to the TV in my living room … I originally bought it because it didn’t need a power connector, but then I found out I could overclock it so I went out a bought a new PSU. 
I ended up getting a 1060 for my son which was a better overall value.
Because they know that the 2000x series were Beta when it comes to Ray tracing… The 3000x is the real deal and the 2d generation of Ray tracing.
Most games drop fps into the ground to 30fps while having RT on with the 2080ti.
But ya.