Of course, RMT sales would not be done in game, I’m just saying that it would be ironic if breaking the ToS could actually be safer (in regards to not getting banned) than following the ToS.
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The bans were not all for RMT. Blizzard put out a blue post on this. The first email on RMT was a mistake for some but not others. Here is what the blue post said:
"There was a banwave this evening - unfortunately, some initially received an RMT notice in error. The second they would have received would have been the one that was applied.
I do apologize for any confusion this may have caused.
As others have mentioned, this action wasn’t necessarily from recent activity.
If you’d wish to have this action reviewed, you’ll want to submit an appeal ticket.
Theres another ban going out for Account sharing as well?
From my understanding - that was what this one was primarily about."
As per above, a follow up email about why the ban actually occured was sent. For some it was for account sharing as well as RMT.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/account-temporarily-banned/1187588/11
There are dozens of other people who also claimed that they got banned, and bought or sold tokens but didn’t boost or get boosted.
It is probably a mistake and can be appealed. The downside is that CS is probably overwhelmed, and you might miss the beginning of the patch.
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But according to all boosting communities they don’t do RMT, only other communities do RMT. Yeh I know, it was safer to assume they all done RMT, but what if? Really you don’t know and really you could be innocent.
Not entirely, everyone sells quite close to each other. Like if you have 10 x M15 in a day and also have 250K gold being randomly mailed to you that day, I think it’s safe to say it came from the runs.
I have a guy in my guild, like 2.6K IO and doing M22-25, but had hundreds of M15-18 and would also have had lots of gold mailed to them from the same source. This kind of data while not 100% accurate should make someone think they may be one of the innocent ones.
The bans apparently were also from past indiscretions, not just something that happened recently.
You’re missing my point. There are lots of players. There are much fewer Blizz employees monitoring this stuff. It is easier for them to just ban any possible RMTer, and then consider appeals. And truthfully with the current ToS, they don’t even need to consider appeals, they can just say “after reviewing our logs our original decision stands”. Sure in an idealistic society each individual ban would only come after hours of research and proof… but that’s wasted manhours.
They probably (read:should) have the math to prove how long is financially worth it to spend on reviewing actions and I can’t imagine its very long for 30-day suspensions. But maybe your guildies will get their suspensions revoked soon.
I think the timing of this ban is on purpose. It’s to really crack down on RMT and botting.
They just boost - that’s why. They should NOT boost.
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To play Devil’s Advocate there’s no way you could know that 100%.
If it is a false ban I hope they get it overturned as quickly as possible.
I’m sure you can, LOL.
Get banned.
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Blue post basically said they scuffed this banwave and banned a bunch of people for the wrong reason, and the main reason for this banwave was account sharing.
If they didn’t get a second email clarifying any additional reason and they’re adamant that they didn’t RMT or otherwise break the rules, seems a pretty easy appeal.
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This. This is correct answer for anyone who complains about the ban.
OP don’t trust your guildies. I’ve done that in the past only to discover they were in the wrong. Everyone says they are innocent and did nothing wrong and Blizzard is desperate bla bla bla, but the reality is, they cheated and are getting the ban. Don’t trust what they say “100%”.
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It’s not just that they are guildies, some of them are people who we have known each other for going on 10 years of just game time. Some of them are friends outside the game for longer than they have been playing this game together and live close by and catch up all the time.
It’s not just “This guy who is another name on my screen said he was innocent”. I’ve had random guildies I don’t really know outside the game, I wouldn’t trust them as far as I can throw them.
Yep, my IRL friend of 10+ years told everyone, including me, he didn’t do anything wrong. I discovered he did. Again, don’t trust what people say in these times. If they did nothing wrong, they can appeal and Blizzard will take a second look. If they have undeniable proof, the ban will stay and you should be wary of what they tell you.
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All I’m saying is been there done that. I’ve also fought for them in the forums just like what you’re doing now. I’m not saying your guildies are guilty but don’t waste your time, a simple appeal will be answered and if it was a ban by mistake Blizzard will remove and will usually give 1 week or more of sub.
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Yes but when? Blizzard admitted they could have got some innocents. I couldn’t say about the account login thing, but those I know who got ‘caught’ doing RMT, they should just unban them, all of them, everyone who got the RMT ban, even if they are really doing RMT and than ban the accounts that were sending out all the gold.
From there they can start looking into the data, decide how much more info is needed to put together before banning someone else. Because simply receiving gold in any quantity, that’s not any reason to ban someone on it’s own, it could very well be legit and stopping someone innocent from playing just because it’s the easiest way to get all those doing the wrong thing, that’s just bad PR.
Blizzard didn’t say they banned innocents. They said they sent the wrong message by mistake (RMT), the second message is the correct message.
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Blizzard uncovered your men’s scheme, aint it a shame. You don’t think Blizzard CS had the resources to get privileges in the Discord? Y’all thought it wasn’t coming back around after what they put the community through the last year? We’re gonna get a nice show here on GD from all the people who were in on it for the next week protesting their innocence. You’re not gonna get much love coming in here saying “my boys were boosting A LOT but they were all on the up and up so these bans are totally mistaken”. Uh huh, yea, right, cool cool cool.
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My guess is the account sharing and mage tower went hand in hand for some people.
Good luck getting them to admit it though.
Appeals usually take from 24hs to 48hs to be answered, not super long. Usually 24hs. Also, while there is a chance that some innocents got caught in the wave, most of the bans are legit bans with proof. It’s not just “large amount of gold” you get a ban. Man, I’m hearing the same story again. Trust me, they always say the same thing. A simple appeal will clear the case and it doesn’t take long. If they are fighting so much it’s probably because they did something wrong.
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