I disagree. I think the leveling format makes sense for this expansion.
My counterpoint against that is why would I pour months and months and months into collecting anima for one zone, only to have that completely wiped away and have to do more months and months and months of grinding just to see the story line?
I do not have time to play this game as much as I used to. This is basically locking people out of content for an entire expansion. Especially since they said switching covenants will be very hard.
Sort of like how you have to play all covenants to get all four stories?
How much effort did you put into putting all those periods?
You’re completely missing my point, and you didn’t answer my question about completing “two sides to every tale.”
I’m not only OK with this, I like this setup.
I have plenty of alts that I like and I rarely get to use them, because by the time I’ve finished leveling one character, I’ve seen the entire story. There’s no great reason to play one of my other alts except to try out the gameplay or for a profession.
I hate that. I want to see a different story with at least some of my alts. I want to have an immersive experience with them, not just power level to max, then run some raids and throw away the game.
I liked that classes used to have unique quest lines to do. I really liked that each class had a different role in the Legion story.
So, I think this is a good thing. And I’m really glad to see that there’s going to be more story after we hit max level.
You could do them on different characters if you didn’t want to reset your AP every time. But yes doing more then 1 story takes more time. But if you didn’t have a lot of time then why do more then 1 story then?
Great job cherry picking quoted sections.
In Legion you don’t have access to any Class quests at any point in the story.
In BFA you don’t have access to any opposing faction quests at any point in the story.
In Shadowlands you get one half of every Covenant’s story and then after choosing are prevented from seeing the outcome of the first half in spite of the fact you are referred to as the Legendary Maw Walker.
We’re treated as more than just a member of a specific covenant for the entirety of the levelling experience and then are relegated to only seeing the outcome of one story line. False equivalency. Learn your logical fallacies.
Because it doesn’t make any sense.
I’m not asking for the Horde quests to be opened to Alliance players.
The only race that chooses the side they want to be on is the Pandaren.
It’s like making me an Alliance player, throwing me into the Horde zone and calling me the effin savior, then banning me from the rest of the Horde because I liked the Tauren more than the Orcs.
I’m not sure how else I can explain it to you, and if you continue to disagree, then I’m sorry. We just disagree.
Thanks! I was directing my response to the only relevant portion of what you wrote as everything else had nothing to do with what I’m saying.
Okay, so … according to this logic, you feel we should have to choose a covenant straight out of the gates in order for it to be relevant to my point?
Or, you know, Blizz could be providing us a taste of what’s to come and then when we do hit the “midpoint” you’re referencing and then select a “faction” to continue forward … which is when my point kicks in and makes it completely relevant; however, you can continue repeating yourself with the “logical fallacies” nonsense if you wish. My point stands.
Thank you for this. Goes to show that there are reasons beyond min/maxing for even casuals to be concerned about the flimsy “meaningful choice” excuse. At this point, anyone who still tries to push the blame onto “tryhards and elitists being jerks” is just being delusional.
Because never in the history of WoW have I been given only half the story, and told I’m not allowed to see the other half over a single game choice that is almost FORCED for certain classes. (The Night Fae ability for druids is, m’wha. chef’s kiss)
That’s like saying, “Why play this game if you’re going to be a CASUAL?”
Autocorrect. Grow up.
You’re point is irrelevant as you are comparing apples to oranges(this is a logical fallacy) in terms of the levelling experiences and story lines of one expansion to another. Not only are the stories different but how it’s implemented and presented to the player is nothing like Legion Class Halls, BFA Alliance vs Horde or any previous expansion.
Maw walker is going into the maw and out.
We get quests… but story wise, why would Bastion clue you in on the goings on, or Revendreth or whatever.
Each zone/covenant has covenant specific story lines that only those that choose their covenant get to experience. Stop with this entitled stuff with your weird logic.
Oh my god, how have i not made it clear that they drag you through EACH ZONE and you start the super important story line. YOU SAVE EACH ZONE FROM DEATH. Why would I suddenly not be allowed to go to another zone and see the MAIN STORY PLOT POINT continue just because I picked a side-faction?
You literally get involved with every single named character in the expansion.
You’re choosing to not listen.
I feel like, judging by what I’ve seen, a lot of people will still give an excuse to say that (lore-wise) it makes sense for covenants to essentially “hide” their quests, history, and future developments from players who are not a part of them, since covenants are supposed to be all secretive and tight-knit and stuff.
A good rebuttal would be that covenants in the shadowlands have no need to be secretive regarding their members since they’re all supposedly working towards defeating a common enemy - the Jailer. Even Revendreth, because I don’t consider Sire Denathrius to be their leader anymore since he’s a raid boss. It just doesn’t make sense lol?
People are…silly.
Yes, you go through them, but you choose a covenant after, what part of that are you ignoring… the title maw walker is literally because you can go into the maw while no other can.
This leads me to believe that it is Blizzard’s intention all along to open up covenant “at some point”. Why you might ask? To create a problem so they can solve it later of course.
Another example that I’ve brought up is the fact that your covenant tells you to go help the other covenants. (Spoilers) Plot wise, the leader of the Night Fae and the leader of Maldraxxus are BFFs.
Sadly this is probably true.