He also infamously said: “you think you do, but you don’t.” We all know that aged well.
This is an apples to oranges comparison. Battlegrounds for most people, don’t offer much in the way of a social experience.
You admit that people have the right to form their group. Well, reserves, gear type, and communication in general comes with the right. You can’t have it both ways.
This is a good argument for having RDF, for non-current content. RDF for levels 1-70 is a good idea. The good may outweigh the bad in that scenario. With socialization being sparce during those levels anyway, post launch. Though, I don’t think RDF has a place in current content. Something essential is lost when people are thrown together randomly in a lobby in a game that’s essentially about a sense of world and social experiences.
I told you. Not people. Not everyone behaves like you.
Nah, different topics. Different reasons. Not related.
I’d be happy for Blizzard to read this thread. Pointing out your inability to put things together is neither trolling or insulting. I am free to state my observations.
…skim this thread.
I can do both? You don’t dictate what I do. If you don’t have the emotional maturity to handle that people like the game, that’s your problem. The forums don’t exist only for you to complain.
It also removes player agency. Again this is my issue, I enjoy having a server community and you already have a game that allows xrealms. Its not too much to ask for one that doesn’t so both sides have an option.
I agree. Again, I believe its important to have an option for both sides.
I think this would create the same issue that those opposed to xrealm are trying to avoid.
I disagree. If implemented as a catch up mechanic at the end of an expansion I think it would be fine, but added before that it harbors community toxicity. Blizz even stated this is the reason for its ommision.
Again, I believe you are incorrect. But even if you are not I can not support adding something that is detrimental to the community overall to fix an issue for a small portion of the community. Do swallow the spider to eat the fly, as the man says.
I would like to add that I appreciate you being civil in your discourse. I hope they add RDF in ICC so you can have a chance to experience it if it means that much to you. Cheers!
I’d argue more against known bugs that weren’t fixed from being exploited. But I will say that RDF not being here will have its short coming from success that will gradually fall off into failing soon. RDF bridges this gap, be it heroic, normal, or older content dungeons. It’s needed. Look at the classic/tbc dungeons as a prime example. People normally just ran them for quest reason over spamming/loot. Yes, there’s players out there that still do dungeon spams, but they aren’t as popular now imo.
Gatekeeping is also another reason why we should have RDF, heck, this would help the players that just want to spam dungeons tbh. Especially if they are a premade that only wants to do certain clears. They also have control of what dungeons they want to run even through the RDF’s features.
I appreciate your views, but they are conflicting with mine. Nothing wrong with that.
At this point I’d rather not keep arguing with you as you will have your reasons and I will have mine, at no point will one of us convince the other that the grass is truly greener on the other side.
I am pro RDF and pro cross realm gameplay and will remain so, especially for older content where it’s hard to get groups for.
Have a good day bro, it’s nice to see someone with an opposing view who doesn’t get too offensive with their words.
This was not directed towards me so you dont even know whats going on around you.
Yeah, you act worse.
Sorry that you dont understand a simple logical conclusion. If people came to terms with Blizzard saying no, you wouldnt have classic to play so dont tell people to come to terms with blizzard saying no.
Projection is lost on you isnt it. Its exactly what you are doing. I would wish they would read these threads to see how anti-RDF people are just trolls.
Maybe you should skim it. My first post on here was an hour ago post #208. So im not spending hours on this thread like you are, quit projecting yourself onto others.
If you are playing you dont really have time to spend the amount of time you do on here.
I like the game, just think RDF would be beneficial to normal dungeons and heroics after they have ran their course.
Never said they were, but you arent going around praising the game are you? You are going around insulting people that think RDF would be beneficial to the game.
Oh, its you again. They havent proved me wrong. Just because you have a bias doesnt mean everyone on your side, including yourself, is proving everyone wrong.
I guess you just vote for one side just because you are a part of that side right? Not objectively looking at what is going on around you?
You quoted me and then didn’t read it. I literally said “you”.
I like the game. I say so. Miserable people don’t like it. I’m okay with that.
I don’t think you know what logic means.
“…people don’t agree with me… trolls, trolls, trolls…” - Do you stomp your feet too? You forgot to add the other part; we LIKE the game how it is. We like what they released. You’re still paying so they don’t need to change anything.
If I was projecting and it was effective, then you wouldn’t be miserable. You’d be happy like me because I got what I wanted. I like what we have.
Maybe you’re just terrible. I’m playing just fine. Participating on the forums isn’t taxing for me. If it is for you, that’s okay… maybe you can’t focus on more than one thing. I’m more capable than you is all it comes down to.
Don’t agree. It’s a terrible tool and the one they added works great.
Sure I am.
Nope. I think they’re wrong and I’m expressing that. You simply can’t emotionally handle it.
Yes they have, pretty consistently. It reminds me of the other thread actually. Plugging your ears and screaming at the top of your lungs will not make you right, Kelliste.
I’d just like to say that Classic exists as it is because of people who quit because of things like cross server random dungeon finder. Everyone currently playing the game is benefitting from the “you think you do but you don’t” crowd.
Yes, we do want a game that wasn’t created for literally everyone. No, I don’t want cross server, no I don’t want RDF. There’s a game like that already and you can vibe with them in retail.
However, I have to admit, my experience with the game is a lot different than it was before. I have a good guild now and I have absolutely no use for a dungeon finder because of it. I suppose if it ever got added it wouldn’t really change my experience at all.
I have un-subbed. The reason is I want to run dungeons and quest along the same level/time line. So I am gambling they will eventually bring RDF back. I will gladly return when they do. I don’t have enough play time to use that weak LFG tool. Not to mention the toxic gatekeeping.
And? You can be used to refer to a group as well. You are clearly talking to the pro-RDF group.
I like the game as a whole as well, just not certain aspects, mainly people like you with poor arguments.
Quit projecting yourself onto others.
Do you? Then why change it from what it was? Apparently you didnt like wrath so why should Blizzard listen to you?
Paying for what? There is no “classic gametime” to pay for. You to have access to retail and gain access to classic in the process. The only real way to measure what people like in classic is though play and listening to what people have said.
Sorry that your arguments dont hold up at the end of the day, but thats your issue not mine.
Who said im miserable? Oh right, you. Not me. But you.
More projecting.
Why do you think RDF is a terrible tool, and we will see if those reasons are reflected in what the tool actually did.
No you are just calling everyone miserable and how game systems are bad. Its not praise.
Again, who is the one saying others are emotionally bankrupt and such, or dont have emotional maturity.
If you guys werent so scared of RDF you wouldnt be on here making these baseless accuations about the people that would like to have it.
I am one of those people who also quit retail, but not because of dungeon finder or cross server gameplay (which I favored) but because of general class mechanics and being forced to do PvE content just to PvP which is all I really want.
In classic, the only PvE content I’m forced to do is leveling to max level, after that I can just PvP and not have to run dungeons/choreghast just to unlock conduits and legendries and remain competitive in the PvP brackets.
With your example, you can still run dungeons with RDF in game since you are only running with your guild and it won’t impact your gameplay, and you even say that it wouldn’t change your experience at all. Not sure why you are anti RDF in the first place?
No they havent. Must be one of your alts because this is what you did in another thread. They read exactly like you do as well, insults and everything in place.
Sorry you are not enjoying the game as it currently is.
Out of curiosity, did you resub for Wrath knowing they were not going to implement RDF or did you just not know? Also, do you not like the current iteration of retail?
I ask because I was planning on cancelling after TBC if RDF was implemented and its always interesting to hear the views of the other side.
Hope you have find a game that is more to your liking. Best of luck, cheers!
And the grand conspiracy theory comes out. What’s more likely is that your arguments are just incredibly weak, so you have multiple different people proving you wrong. I realize that the grand conspiracy theory is easier to swallow for you though.