three ppl want lfr me 2
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It’s not enough that I succeed. Others must fail!
let’s not forget about attunements and the poaching that was rife in BC. that part right there stopped some guilds from progressing further.
Plus the insanity that was raid sizes. Entry level raid was 10 people, everything else was 25 people. So once your guild farmed out Karazhan, you had to merge with another guild before you could hit Gruul.
Ok, they can remove LFR if they bring back Wrath style 10 man difficulty. I don’t know why people think that removing LFR will increase the size of the raiding community, it won’t. Part of the problem is the community itself, and you OP are a prime example of why some people won’t raid, they don’t want to deal with people like you.
Others simply don’t have the time or have a stable schedule that allows them to raid. Guess what, they won’t just start raiding, they will either continue doing what they are doing now, or, if you got your way on this issue, you would demand more time and effort put into raid content at the expense of other content and those who can’t raid would leave.
Does LFR have its problems, sure, but rather than advocate for its removal, people should be asking for the experience to be improved upon and allow people who can’t commit to a raid team to have their own endgame.
Are people still using this attempt at trolling? I can’t even give a point for originality. Also with attitudes like yours (assuming it’s genuine) is why I don’t put up with raiders in this game anymore. LFR exists, people use it, it’s not going anywhere. Deal with it.
Another noboby ask you thread about content you don’t want, but don’t have to do.
It’s the hardest pill but it’s true dungeon and raid queing need to go. Systems like LFR have taken away a large social aspect expected from an MMO.
A fix blizz can do is rebrand LFR from “Raid Finder” to “Starter” keep the difficulty intact so smaller, more casual guilds, can engage in a social experience without the stress of progression.
Nothing that YOU or BLIZZARD does is going to force people to play with you the way you want them too. They will simply quit.
Exactly this. Although I rarely do LFR while it is current, it doesn’t bother me that it is there. I go back to LFR when I can talk to the Lorewalker and queue up solo for xmog mostly. Plus it is a decent source of gold if you’re also looking for items.
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Alright, allow me to add my take as someone that not only values LFR, but supports it (and I am going to explain why).
I do PVP almost exclusively. The reason why is this:
- Apply to a guild that does raiding.
- Wait for an approval after a thorough investigation of my achievement score, raid-related achievements, Spec, gear score, Raider IO statistics, etc.
- 2 weeks later, I get into the guild, but all the DPS slots are filled. Have a spot reserved, but only after another week or two where the others that came before me to have a chance.
- Guild schedules their raids in the late PMs. Eat a very quick dinner so I’m not late for the raid (being late further affects my chances of being in future raids)
- I finally get a piece of gear after hours of wipes and near-snowballs because of frequent afks and bio breaks (Edit: from other guildies. A good 30 minutes total is spent getting ready/bio breaks). Raid leader says that we need to roll on the gear that we all got. Because I rolled lower, I lost the loot that i got. Goodbye anticipated improvements.
Yeah-no, filling out an application informing of previous raids, current strengths and weaknesses, having to apply for raid spots and waiting. What does that sound like to you?
With LFR, at least if I have the bare minimum gear and put forth some effort, I don’t have to join a dedicated guild, go through an achievement/raid check, wait weeks on end for an opening. i just have to do decent DPS. Gear? I don’t care about gear from PVE anymore other than transmogs, I just want to experience the story (or what they’re calling a story).
What’s that? Watch a youtube video to experience the story? Why play a story-driven game at all?
Yeah, no, LFR for the people that don’t want this to be their jobs is an absolute godsend.
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Players will form groups out of necessity. If they don’t and quite then that’s on them.
MMO’s are a social experience and I’m glad even Ion has acknowledged the damage queue’d dungeons and raid has done.
WoW has never been only a social experience.
Only? no but it is a huge part of being in a MMO.
It’s about the big picture. If I can complete the WoW and see content from beginning to end without having a say a simple “hello” to something queue is that easy then it’s a failure to the MMO genre.
Never was a huge part of WoW, the majority of WoW is a single player game.
You must be new to the game.
Nope been around for over 15 years, outside of dungeons and raids everything else is 100% single player, and leveling makes up majority of the game play.
And dungeons and raids are optional content.
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No- This is how I know you are liar.
I remember back in vanilla running into quest that were actually too difficult to do alone. I had to ask for help from either someone near by or from guild.
Only sith speak in absolutes.
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