No reason to keep playing mop

[Mmabuser-the-scryers]

It’s clear that the developers don’t give a damn about Mop Classic.

First of all, the server merge: even though 90% of the community was against it, they went ahead and did it anyway. The result? Mop US pop went from 81k players to 50k players. A loss of 30k players since the server merge.

What was great about Classic, which set it apart from other versions of the game, was that it was like the old WoW, with a single-server community and people you often saw around the world. And also WPVP on 99% of servers. Maybe 99%, but the opposing faction’s community was close-knit and had a lot of fun. In short, the server merge really destroyed a very large part of Classic.

Not to mention the reflagging of the Arugal server from PVP to PVE. I still remember when my Australian friend wrote me a long, salty message on Discord. Today, he and his Australian friends no longer play MOP. This is the result of the server merge: a shattered community.

I want to understand what the benefits are of continuing to play MOP. PVE? Retail PVE is a thousand times better, easier to gear up, easier to do the content, lots of casual-friendly guilds. Classes that are fun to play. Easy to replay old content.

What about PvP? If we’re talking about RATED PvP, given the catastrophic PvP in Mop Classic, it’s better to do PvP on Retail, which is more balanced and enjoyable. It’s a different kind of PvP, sure, but it’s more fun on Retail. What’s more, TBC Classic is coming soon, so you might as well do rated PvP on TBC Classic. There’s literally no reason to put yourself through the pain of Mop.

As for world PvP, unfortunately, the WPvP of Arugal, Faerlina on the Alliance side, and Benediction on the Horde side was WPvP paradise. Since those servers became legacy and Arugal was reflagged, there’s no more WPvP on Mop. Don’t talk to me about Grob, Grob PvP is 70% Alliance and 30% Horde with a population of 3,500 players and 3 layers. The only WpVp is Goldshire and Durotar, that’s it, it’s not world PvP.

I see no reason to continue to play MOP. The beauty and main advantage of Classic was the community on the servers, but since the server merge, there’s nothing left.

[Snipy-faerlina]

@Mmabuser-the-scryers

even though 90% of the community was against it

Whether this is true or not, it sure didn’t seem like it prior to the merges. From what I saw (or at least what I recall), most people seemed to think they were a good idea beforehand, and Fwoibles’ comment, “Everyone so far seems on board” seemed genuine.

Tom Ellis

@Mmabuser-the-scryers

I want to understand what the benefits are of continuing to play MOP.

@Mmabuser-the-scryers

What about PvP?

I’m quite curious about these things, too. Actually, even before the merges, I would wonder from time to time if there was anything compelling about MoP. We had been on this progression course since 2019, so it kind of felt like keeping going was just what we were doing, but I struggled a little with finding a stable raid group, since I cannot commit to prime time hours, and I ended up dipping into Retail.

Since the merges, I have only logged into MoP for Headless Horseman, which is long over, and I have no reason to, though I keep thinking that maybe there’s something that will pull me back…

@Mmabuser-the-scryers

I see no reason to continue to play MOP. The beauty and main advantage of Classic was the community on the servers, but since the server merge, there’s nothing left.

Maybe! There’s always Era for that Classic feel. Anniversary for the content progression again, but as you pointed out already:

@Mmabuser-the-scryers

Retail PVE is a thousand times better

[Yingocha-galakras]

@Mmabuser-the-scryers

even though 90% of the community was against it

[Citation needed]

@Mmabuser-the-scryers

main advantage of Classic was the community on the servers

“server communities” died around WOTLK and into cata.

[Mmabuser-the-scryers]

@Yingocha-galakras

“server communities” died around WOTLK and into cata.

This is totaly false, mankrik had good community, arugal too, bloodsail, etc what your talking about ???

@Snipy-faerlina

Whether this is true or not, it sure didn’t seem like it prior to the merges. From what I saw (or at least what I recall), most people seemed to think they were a good idea beforehand, and Fwoibles’ comment, “Everyone so far seems on board” seemed genuine.

The idea was good, but once again, it was the execution of the idea that was terrible. They should have either merged the PvP servers together, like Faerlina and Bene, or created fresh servers where everyone could transfer wherever they wanted. The approach they took was the worst possible and the laziest.

[Ailwen-grobbulus]

I agree with you about the merges. It’s been a real shame to see the Classic development team have so little understanding of how big a factor small-server communities were in the original joy of WoW for many. Time and time again, in SoD and now here, they have destroyed small communities to force everyone onto megaservers , rather than leaving the smaller servers unlocked and just letting the folks who prefer a megaserver go to one. It’s a baffling choice to not just leave both options. Removing existing options from a paid service is rarely a great idea.

I’m still playing MoP for the class design. This expansion was peak for me for many of the classes I enjoy, and I just can’t get that anywhere else. (I make my living from IP; there is no circumstance under which I would support IP thieves.)

[Shlomp-nazgrim]

Is it that time of the week for this thread again already?

[Burgi-lei-shen]

If you have to make up numbers to make an argument then you don’t have an argument.

[Bigblackbop-benediction]

Raid logging just fine esp with ToT coming next month.

[Veliveanna-galakras]

Lot of reasons for 30k people to leave but if they left strictly because of the server mergers they were going to quit anyways.

With BF6 ,legion remix, tbc anniversary about to cone out and beta for midnight there is plently of other things to do why waiting for ToT to come out.

[Heydownthere-arugal-au]

@Mmabuser-the-scryers

Not to mention the reflagging of the Arugal server from PVP to PVE. I still remember when my Australian friend wrote me a long, salty message on Discord. Today, he and his Australian friends no longer play MOP. This is the result of the server merge: a shattered community.

The amount of OCE players that care that Arugal is now PvE is so few that your Aussie friends might be the only ones who cared.

The server is ~5% Alliance and WPvP hasn’t been a thing since the end of Vanilla outside of attacking others in the SSC dungeon hub or any other bottlenecked dungeon entrance where you can’t fly in, or the “For the Alliance/Horde!” Achievement for the Black War Bear.

WPvP peak was in Vanilla, WPvP after is a shell of a shell.

[Tixij-lei-shen]

@Mmabuser-the-scryers

They should have either merged the PvP servers together, like Faerlina and Bene,

they did. Faelina was thinking they’d host and take bene mergers. Bene was thinking they’d host, faerline merges.

neither of them factored in….whitemane. I’ve been saying that for years (main change from ivixia the space goat paladin).

blizzard did. 3 99’s servers to grobb. all the 1000’s of supposed wpvp’ers who wanted pvp….didn’t show up. Horde shows this. if their horde moved their…alliance would be buried off that. that didn’t happen.

Not even from whitemane. that was horde. And west coast so in the same server rack damn near lol. SO I don;t give muc credit to but muh ping! 1000’s of whiteman did not take the grobb. the server is probably on the same server switch as grobb…one port over. No ping hit.

[Marubtw-benediction]

ok bye. see you next week.

[Anachronous-grobbulus]

You think they green parse too?