Actually if you take a look at the CC forums - the large majority of them aren’t raiders or m+ pushers. They are quite literally every day players. I found myself wishing for more representation on there.
For the record raiders don’t like the open world content either in its current form 
Stop trying to scapegoat raiders/m+ content for why the Blizzard team is unable to produce open world content that people want to do.
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I still think Blizzard should implement the Legion invasions to the old world.
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I don’t know how many threads we need to tell you…YOU DONT NEED ILVL 280 GEAR. 252 is being generous enough as is seeing that ANYTHING in world content gets DECIMATED. What exactly would an ilvl of 280 give a World Content player than an ilvl of 252 does not? You just want to brag and say you have a big ilvl for something that doesn’t even require it. Put your butt in a mythic 15 and see how far an ilvl 252 gets you. You appreciate really quick why 280 gear goes to Mythic and Raid runners. At this point, a non raider/mythic has access to TWO ilvl 291 legendaries, a full slot of 252 gear, a single slot of 262 gear…like hello. What exactly more do you need when you quite literally are getting handed excellent gear?
And I don’t know how many times it needs to be said in here that THE ILEVEL ISN’T THE COMPLAINT IT’S THE LACK OF ENGAGING CONTENT THAT
LASTS THE ENTIRE SEASON.
Try reading instead of making bad assumptions.
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Regardless of that, the dev team and the higher-ups who run the show, can in fact spend money to better the game in all aspects and all forms of content without sacrificing anything for anyone. They have the money and resources, but for whatever reason though they just won’t do it.
“Housing will cost a raid tier”
it doesn’t. It costs them to spend more money to hire out a bigger team to solely focus on that idea, but will they do it? Not any time soon.
yeah people dont seem to get this at all in mmorpgs
Then stop being a world player and start doing mythics. It’s literally WoW’s endgame for over a decade. Or go play a different MMO…like FFXIV that does nothing but engage casuals.
Telling people to go play other games is a brain-dead take when this game is and always has been for everyone.
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Except that you state your statements are fact, when you should be saying they’re based on fact.
Very big difference.
Though I know communication isn’t a strong suit for you as is evident over the past 300 replies or so when I first replied.
Housing is a boring concept that only gets more boring the more ya’ll keep requesting it. Am I against it? No. If you get it, and I hope you do, I doubt it will solve the problems cause you create new problems every day and are never satisfied.
I don’t create any problems at all actually. But I know the team can do better and do more for everyone.
Clearly not since everyone keeps pushing for something that WoW indeed does. You literally can spend your entire time in ZM crafting mounts and doing world bosses, but instead they rather take to the forums and complain “not enough content”
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I haven’t had to “stop being a world player” since Mists. There’s always been end game zones, because guess what? They’re part of end game content.
Open world players always have content. The issue is that most recently, it’s not engaging. It has been in the past. And the entire point is to advocate for that again.
Or I can voice my criticism and hope WoW doesn’t lose more players to attitudes like yours.
And we’re literally saying it’s a crap system compared to some previous ones. Get a clue.
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That mount crafting system was time-gated pretty heavily at the start of the patch, raiding, m+, and PVP are never time-gated by comparison.
People had KSM done in 2-3 days. It took 2-3 months to get ZMs achievement meta done. It’s not comparable. For whatever reason, you need to put in more effort for open-world zone rewards than any form of gearing offers, and those rewards aren’t exclusive either, seems totally unfair at that point.
Honestly. How many times can they rehash the Timeless Isle before it’s completely stupid and unfun?
How come we’ve never rehashed Suramar in any form? This is basically what I think most of us mean by making engaging world content.
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Hm
15k honor for 226->233 weapon upgrade after hitting 2400 pre honor buffs would like a word
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We’ll see what DragonFlight does then. It promises to shake things up, but I honestly believe no matter what WoW changes to you will still in fact be on this board complaining. It’s literally all you know to do at this point.
Yea and every patch its rendered useless anyways. So fun. So innovative.
I used to agree with statements like this
but… if done right, housing could be pretty freaking awesome.
I have 0 faith that wow devs could do it right.
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After garrisons, I’m with you. I don’t care about it either way. But…I DO support the players who are advocating for it.