no new class no new race, shadowlands is at best WoD 2.0, at least trashran has auction house and you do not need 5 million mount to have a real city.
what good of level redesign when there is no need or desire for player base to level a new one.
solution is simple, copy from legion play book, remove all summon related abilities from unholy death knight and give it to necromancer. you design one more spec and you have a whole new necromancer class.
i have five death knights, i like them, but sometimes you need to make painful choices like demon hunger did to warlock in legion. player base will get over it. no new class and no new race will do exactly opposite.
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Okay thank you for your opinion, but I disagree wholeheartedly, shadowlands would have to be a lot worse than I’ve heard to even come close to rivaling WOD. 
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6 zone at the beginning then TJ was added later patches.
As it has been said in other similar/exactly the same threads: the issue with WoD was by far and away NOT the lack of new classes or races.
In fact the first month of WoD was rad, by all accounts. The problem made itself known once we all hit cap. Raid/PVP or die. One daily, of a choice of two, from a table. Run the same heroics until your eyes bled.
It’s why so many people built up an alt army during WoD.
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While it is worth acknowledging that the scope of the expansion comes off as far more humble than its predecessors, I wouldn’t immediately jump to it being WoD 2, since that expansion went through a good period of development hell and being completely reworked in Alpha and all the devs giving up and spending the rest of their time on the expansion working on tech for next expansion
TL;DR it’s way too early to be making such an accusation.
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There isn’t even alpha testing yet. Also necros… Another class to steal lock and dk abilities.
Bfa added several new races…and subraces depending how you look at it.
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WoD was fun during the leveling process. Pretty good storyline, imo. Too bad the endgame sucked.
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then the level revamp should happen in bfa when people has reason to level up, for all these new races. 9.0 should be called 8.4 if this is the best feature of the expansion
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wod level is fun, but wow or mmorpg is focused on end game, if i want level exp i will play last of us
Betting there will be more allied races.
We don’t need more classes, maybe 4th specs.
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If you think not having a new race/class was WoD’s defining issue I question if you actually played it.
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YOUSIR ARE WRONG!!!
It’s WoD 3.0, bfa wears the mantel of 2.0.
ff14 has 14 classes, enough said
Ya’ll gotta stop just counting random non-comparable game features and saying since I counted there must be less!
Not all game features are made equal. Not all zones are the same size. Small size zones can have more content than large size zones.
These things are not comparable with a simple list. There are a ton of character customization options coming that the community has been asking for for years plus a complete revamp of the DK starting experience. This is equivalent to a new class, imo.
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Ffxiv no spec, class only.
Paladins tank only.
Warrior tank only.
Dk tank only.
Samurai tank only.
Scholar heal only.
Whm heal only.
Astrololol heal only.
Summoner dps only.
Ninja dps only.
Bard dps only.
Blm dps only.
I forget the others.
Wow, class and spec plays differently.
Druid tank
Druid heal
Druid ranged dos
Druid melee dps
Holy priest heal
Shadow priest damage
Disc priest heal
Holy pally heal
Prot pally tank
Ret pally dps
Arms warrior dps
Fury warrior dps
Prot warror tank
Bm hunter dps pet class
Mm hunter ranged dps
Surv hunter melee dps
Dh tankmode
Dh dpsmode
Rogue dps
Rogue dps differently
Rogue dps a third time
Mage fire dps
Mage frost dps
Mage arcane dps
Etc etc etc.
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What account doesnt have 1 or more Dk’s already?
What good is a revamped Dk zone?
It sure as heck isnt equivalent to a new class.
omg stop complaining, we have so many classes and so many races. We don’t need one every expansion.
What? The Job system would be more comparable to specs in which case WoW blows it out of the water.
There’s 9 base classes in FFXIV and 18 combat jobs.
WoW has 13 base classes and 36 specs.
I’m sorry, ya’ll, its too bloated already and specs are getting left behind already. They need to focus on getting all the specs in the game right not add even more to balance.
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that is what we gonna get, some fire spec for death knight. we have 3 class heavily spec in fire already, why add another one, it will be warrior gladiator spec 2.0 if anyone rememer how that ends.