So was azeroth saved by floating magical artifact weapons attached to meat?
What about the fourth gen death knights made after sylvanas ripped a hole in the sky?
First/second gen, nothing?
What about the fact that we basically own the maw now and have the guy who made the helm chilling on speed dial
Ok chief go raise some horseman. Why stop at four?
Well eventually you’d run out of good corpses.
Nah we both know that that is how Blizzard explained every class losing their super special powers.
Our artifacts weapons have drained so we can’t raise any more powerful friends.
But… the artifact weapons weren’t what raised the Horsemen.
You’re given the power to raise the Four Horsemen by the Lich King himself. As the quest text says:
The Four Horsemen were no ordinary death knights, they were born of pure, unholy power gifted from the Lich King to Kel’thuzad
This unholy power to raise the dead has now been passed to you, Deathlord. I am sure you will wield it with great conviction.
Kel’Thuzad raised the original four horsemen and he didn’t have no fancy artifact weapons when he did so. He was granted that power by the Lich King, and he used it. You’re simply doing what Kel’thuzad did when he raised the original group into undeath.
When we raised the four horsemen, IIRC we had a button to press that was literally our artifact weapons.
REGARDLESS
My point was, we did not raise the four horsemen on our own, which is what those two posters I was replying to was implying.
He’s real BTW. Not an AI picture
Now, he’s a Canadian Therapist
Behold the six horsepersons of the Apocalypse Redux
True enough, we didn’t raise them on our own. We had the Lich King giving us that power.
Since the Lich King is effectively no more (as there is no longer a Helm of Domination to put on Bolvar’s head and make him the Lich King), it’s unclear if we’ll ever be able to raise more death knights as powerful as the Horsemen. Even Kel’thuzad needed the Lich King’s power to raise the first group.
If you go to 2:40, it looks like we’re using both. The reason I thought it was our weapon is that icon looked like one of them:
When it comes down to it, I don’t care if we get more DKs. Blizzard can and will do what they want.
… Death Knights are created through necromancy, the raising of the dead. The Deathlord and Ebon Blade necromancers only being capable of raising Death Knights is headcanon.
Chris Metzen can be heard explaining this in the 2010 lore panel of Blizzcon aswell, if you’re interested.
Death Knights existed before the Helm of Domination. See: Warcraft II.
It was a smart move from a business perspective. Advertising works and they were getting so much negative advertising about Shadowlands from a vocal minority of players and super subscription YouTube CCs that the smart business thing was to pull the plug on SL.
So a season got cut which no doubt was the Arthas / healm season.
Now the SL haters are blaming the devs for a problem which they caused and the developers had to solve.
Before the Cosmic Order retcon. Death Magic is not the same as necromancy and no Death Knights were ever risen outside of the Lich King’s influence.
The Death Knights of the First War are not the same as the Lich King’s Death Knights, so they do not count.
This!
If you start a Death Knight (one of the original races though, so you get the Wrath starting experience) and look around the space where you talk to Instructor Razuvious and get your runeblade, you can see Cult of the Damned necromancers raising potential Death Knights from a pile of Argent Dawn corpses. The Death Knights in question are then judged by Razuvious. If they’re worthy, they get sent to get their runeblade and armor. If they’re not worthy, ghouls are summoned to kill the death knight and devour the remains.
The Knights of the Ebon Blade have developed a work-around for that issue. They’ve created the Ball Cap of Really Effective Persuasion which has … mostly the same effect. The only drawback is that about half of the new recruits are only interested in monster truck rallies.
This is not true. The Lich King is not involved in the raising of Death Knights in Acherus (he’s just standing over at the balcony looking out over the soon to be destroyed Scarlet Crusade villages). It’s just Cult of the Damned necromancers doing the work, that’s it.
And post-Lich King death, there are quests in Cataclysm which make it clear that powerful Scourge can perform rituals to turn Paladins into Death Knights, which is almost what happens to Gidwin Goldbraids in the Eastern Plaguelands. You save him at the end of the main storyline for the zone, but he could have been turned into a Death Knight had we not shown up when we did.
Again, that’s just headcanon. Quests in the game, recent (Shadowlands) and of 15 years in the past (WotLK), contradict you.
You’re not reading what’s being typed. The Lich King doesn’t have to literally preside over every Death Knight, but his presence–his death magic–is needed to create more Death Knights.
The Cult of the Damned are a proxy. The Death Knights are a proxy. They are conduits for the Lich King to work THROUGH.
Death Knights are more complicated than simple necromancy. They require Death Magic. Only the Lich King possess the Death Magic to make new Death Knights.
The Helm of Domination only forces compliance, which was destroyed by the Primus, so the Lich King cannot compel Death Knights to do his bidding.
Since Pelagos is the Arbiter of the Shadowlands, I highly doubt he’s going to allow Bolvar to simply raise more Death Knights without some pretty heavy strings attached.
The Helm of Domination [2][3] was a magical, ornate[4] helm (or crown)[5] infused with the power of Domination and worn by the Lich King to control the Undead Scourge.
The Helm of Domination wasn’t used to create anything. It was created to control the Undead Scourge according to the wowpedia.