No, Me Not Inviting You to My Key isn't Gatekeeping

You don’t. It’s gatekeeping whether you have 2 spots or 1 million spots available. Likewise, the number of DPS left out is inconsequential. When access is limited, it’s gatekeeping. You’re all getting stuck on semantics.

And the gatekeeping applies to them not being admitted to the group. It’s still gatekeeping.

That’s a really dumb question. We’re not talking about a delay in moving forward, we’re talking about being gatekept from joining. Is this your first day?

Unless the group is disbanded, is the group not able to bring in someone else? Again, getting hung up on the semantics. Any time one person gets to deny another access, for any reason, they are gatekeeping. It’s a pretty simple concept and all these ridiculous scenarios will not change the definition.

It’s like they get it, but they refuse to get it.

Very well said, should be at the top of the replies for more people to see

But I’m not denying them access to the dungeon. I’m denying them access to my group. Are you insinuating there’s no difference?

I am not denying them the ability to put their own group together. Why worry about all the potential rejections when the player can take control of their own access for themselves?

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Jfc. Denying access to your group is gatekeeping.

This isn’t rocket surgery.

They are not insinuating but flat out saying that the narrative in their mind is fixed no matter what the circumstances are, and as such are able to maintain being perpetual victims of the universe.

I’m just picturing that this is their gate:

I don’t run mythics and I have not come close to professing I am a victim of any sort. The simple fact is, if you keep another person from joining your group then you are, in fact, gatekeeping.

You all want to argue this most likely because you view the term gatekeeping as only this negative, toxic thing which could never apply to you. But the truth is, gatekeeping is a part of our daily lives and we rarely pay attention to it. Realistically, we ignore it until it is put in front of us either as a negative thing happening to us, or a negative thing we have done to others.

It is not inherently negative, but many only view it as negative.

Then what is your proposed solution?

I’m not here to offer a solution, I’m just calling folks out on their denial. I don’t care what anyone does with the groups they form. You’re going the wrong way with my part of the discussion.

Ohhh, you’re trolling, got it.

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No. Op said they weren’t gatekeeping. I corrected them. That’s not trolling.

It’s also a true statement to say that there may be the perception of gatekeeping when none exists. We can easily be our own worst enemies in determining that our progress is in the hands of others - though I grant you most of the time in our social species, that is.

I just think that the human brain was given faculty and consciousness to be able to drill down on specifics because details can matter when discussing things such as one’s ability - or perception of one’s ability - to access something. So, to say this is just semantics as a kind of denial of how nuanced this is, I think does a disservice.

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I’m sure you feel that way. And that’s alright!

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Content in the game requires you to both know, and be able to execute mechanics at a certain level, while also outputting a certain amount of damage/healing.

If you being in my group would limit my ability to finish the dungeon, who is gatekeeping whom then? In this scenario, yes, I’m not inviting the person in question, but at the same time, if I did invite that person, we wouldn’t be able to finish the dungeon, this limiting access to the loot at the end.

So, in a very real way, you being unable to perform at the level required by the content is actually just you gatekeeping yourself.

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Since when did making sure you can actually physically complete content in a video game become elitist?

It’s nice that you are trying to come off as profound but, you’re not fooling anyone.

Not inviting someone to a group is gatekeeping. Good or bad, that’s what it is.

That was a lot of words to say you’re trash at the game.

This is how I feel as a tank. I’m the pretty girl on tinder and every swipe is a match. I have people begging me constantly to tank. Feels good!

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Looks at my lists of posts…and responses…

Searches for where I’m complaining about not getting invited…still looking, stilll looking…Yeah nothing.

You know what assumptions do right?

You can say it cuz I’m not going to here.

I gotta say, the fact you became defensive and felt the need to respond to that post says a lot. lol.

If you don’t make posts complaining about it, it wasn’t about you. Except now I have to wonder :face_with_raised_eyebrow: