I was trying to be nice by re-explaining basic concepts you are somehow unable to grasp. Seeing as you are as rude as you are dumb though I will stop and just flat out tell you that your counter arguments make no sense (e.g. ending a series and handing out cr gains/losses is somehow fair but making a player stay and everyone play out games isn’t). There’s simply no getting through to you though.
Sounds good man you have a good kne
You can almost beat people will lose rounds on purpose if they get an ally that is annoying and they just dont want them to win lol
Your idea is bad because a single game of solo shuffle defeats the purpose of solo shuffle.
They structured it as it is so every player plays every comp available within the pool of players.
If you take issue with leavers, you change the punishment for leaving. You don’t reformat the structure of solo shuffle.
It’s okay to have bad ideas. We all do. No need to type novels at people to unnecessarily defend them, however.
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The purpose of “solo shuffle” is solo queue, not to play 6 rounds of every possible comp combination. Nobody asked for that and the “shuffle” part was only added as a way to make solo queue work. However it’s actually not required as you’d get the same results with single games and your inability to see that has me questioning your common sense.
It’s obvious that one of the main reasons people leave is because they get frustrated after being abused for multiple rounds in a row once they’re identified as the weak link. Single games would solve that.
If it was a terrible idea I’d have zero problem accepting that, but it’s not and yours or anybody else’s inability to see why the 6 round format is leading to player frustration isn’t going to change that.
Also just to be clear idc that much about the format changing nor do I think it will. I’m mainly just throwing the idea out there as I’ve seen it mentioned a few times and it has merit.
Stop. Youre literally the only person who thinks a 1 round solo shuffle is a good idea.
We get that you think your idea is good (thats why you said it), but noone agrees with you.
Except it’s only you and a clown with no PvP achievements disagreeing and I saw this mentioned by other people first.
With that said feel free to explain how a 6 round format is going to be more fair than single games over the course of time. If there’s something I overlooked I have no issue with that. All I’m getting are shallow “your idea is bad” replies. Defend your position with an actual argument and maybe I’ll change my mind.
I gave my reasons already which youve clearly ignored, disagreed with, and/or failed to comprehend. (That i wouldnt want to wait in q for 1 game, that the 4 dps being shuffled is my favorite part, and that group rng would be a factor)
I dont really care about changing your mind as its clear dont agree on this, but im not seeing one single person agree with you that a one round solo shuffle is a good idea.
These reasons don’t make sense. Queues would be shorter, liking the shuffle part is just a personal preference, and 6 round shuffle is still subject to the same rng.
Liking the current format is fine, but there’s a difference between what you prefer and a different approach being “bad”. You have yet to explain how it is and trust me I’d be glad to hear it as I’m more interested in the truth than being right.
You clearly dont understand. Of course my opinions are based on personal preference what else would they be based on? Im not going to try to change your mind since my truth is obviously not one and the same as your own (nor should it be), but making solo shuffle 1 round is (IN MY OPINION) a great way to kill the game mode, thus making it a terrible idea.
*disclaimer - i get that you dont understand or agree with me, exalter. So maybe save yourself the 15 minutes of novel writing (you wont because you always need the last word apparently)
Im going to be the bigger person here and discontinue the conversation with you since its like talking to a parrot who keeps repeating itself.
- This thread is about people leaving solo shuffle, not personal truths or any other non-sense.
- One possible solution I threw out there was single round games due to the vast majority of leavers getting frustrated after being the kill target for multiple rounds.
- You then state that idea is “bad” with no logical explanation other than your preference for the shuffle format.
Again it’s fine to prefer the shuffle format (I like getting games done in larger chunks as well), but that doesn’t mean it’s not causing issues. If you actually knew how to convey what you were thinking correctly (“I don’t like that”) and just stated that you prefer one way over the other this entire conversation could have been avoided.
I’m playing a bg and responding to you during lulls in activity and since you keep coming back to edit more non-sense in I have to keep adding new replies. Trust me it doesn’t take much actual time to respond to anything you say.
lol ok. In other words you are unable to defend your reasoning and will attempt to save face by taking the “moral high ground” and exiting the conversation.
Called it 10 char
You mean like someone nuking 5 other peoples time to manipulate wins points/rating… One person having a DC occasionally does not compare to willful abuse and manipulation of a system on the regular.
No, but regardless their points are forfeit.
wait to you fight with two bots.
4 out of those 6 rounds is like a 2v2. The other 2 rounds, well, you’re screwed.
Thats great but I think there is more to consider than points.
In a healthy game play loop people actually want to participate, are rewarded for their merits unabated by trolling and can rely on the system to perform as intended and not be exploitable.
I’ve had this happen twice. Not a lot, but it happens. One time it was a healing druid, mad about something and him and the mage and I guess others we were playing with just got into it and he blew up on everyone. I asked him why he was just standing there and he blew up on me lol.
This is fair, but along with this specific situation the shuffle format allows you to adapt to particular individuals more broadly. Throwing out the baby with the bathwater as the first response, without even attempting to balance the egregious outliers, is short-sighted. Perfect balance is an impossible ask, but it should be realistic to achieve good enough balance that it’s rare to have an obvious weak link that just gets tunneled at no cost over and over.
At minimum being at 70, having a much tighter possible gear disparity between players, and having less bursty matches on average should help many of these issues already. Throw in an actual balance pass and you have a stew going.
That all being said, were they to do a balance pass at 70 (maybe even see at least how the first season plays out) and there’s still a huge issue with this, then sure you could change them to be single matches and that would also generally work. I just think the experience would be worse given the specs are all reasonably balanced. I say this as an ele main who knows better than anyone the soul-crushing woes of being the default train target of all the busted chimp specs that are basically the only thing queueing up for a while now.
I agree, and I wouldn’t go to single game format right away either. It’s just one possible solution. It’s much better to have a more subtle multi-faceted approach to preventing leavers (incentives to stay, better balance, correct punishments i.e. lose mmr) than to make sweeping changes off the bat.
With that said even when there is better balance and no gear disparities there is still generally preferred kill targets in comps/lobbies and I anticipate people will still get really frustrated with being trained 6 games in a row.