Yes, thanks again.
There’s no nuance here.
The EULA clearly states what your subscription fee goes towards. It’s crystal clear.
There’s no need to make it more complicated than it has to be. It’s right there in blue letters for you.
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You’re just making a fool of yourself now to any intelligent person reading this forum.
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Intelligent people would have read the EULA and they would have understood what it means.
They are overwhelmingly on my side.
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Your mistake is thinking that an intelligent person thinks that reading one short document is all they need to do to understand everything about a subject. You’re projecting your beliefs and lack of understanding onto the actual intelligent people. The evidence is that you were unable to respond to anything in my post except for half of one sentence.
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Yea some were. And on those servers everyone knew eachother because there was so few people and no server transfers. People were stuck where they were and so had to make the best of it. Now days when there are the exact same amount of people, people are not willing to try and make it work. They will just quit and leave. Its all about instant gratification now.
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Okay well here is where you business lesson makes no sense. Comparing coke vs a video game is very different.
- WoW bills in 30/90/180 day increments. You’re upset at day 1 but by day 30 you forget. Or you prepay for so long its mute.
- Coke rarely has any feedback from people. Either good or bad. You drink it, toss the can, buy more. Nobody cares either way. With video games, every single comment is amplified, reddit subs with millions, twitter accounts with thousands of retweets. They post about something good and the first comment is about something else really bad. So to say, there is always a ton of negative feedback with video games, in fact most of it is negative. Therefore, negative attention is essentially mute.
- You have a far more emotional attachment with a video game than 99% of normal products. Like yeah I love coke, its a great soda. But if i dont have one for a week I don’t get fomo about it. I know where it is, i can go to the store to buy more. You miss a raid trying to make a point, and you have 24 people you miss and are upset with you for your decision. If you choose to boycott coke, nobody cares, if you choose to quit WoW, potentially many people will care.
Maybe you’re young and you didn’t live through it and you likely don’t read much. But companies pay big dollars for market research and they used to man costumer service phones. Less so now days.
New Coke left a bitter taste in the mouths of the company’s loyal customers. Within weeks of the announcement, the company was fielding 5,000 angry phone calls a day. By June, that number grew to 8,000 calls a day, a volume that forced the company to hire extra operators. “I don’t think I’d be more upset if you were to burn the flag in our front yard,” one disgruntled drinker wrote to company headquarters. At protests staged by grassroots groups such as “Old Cola Drinkers of America,” consumers poured the contents of New Coke bottles into sewer drains. One Seattle consumer even filed suit against the company to force it to provide the old drink.
The outrage caught Coca-Cola executives by surprise. They had hardly made a rash decision unsupported by data. After all, they had performed 190,000 blind taste tests on U.S. and Canadian consumers. The problem, though, is that the company had underestimated loyal drinkers’ emotional attachments to the brand.
ht tps://www.history.com/news/why-coca-cola-new-coke-flopped
See point two lol. They never get outrage… so any tiny little bubble of anything and they do their corporate thing and panic. WoW is used to it. Would be wierd if players werent toxic
I once worked in customer support for a media company that billed monthly. There are people who remember everything. Very passionately too. Five minutes of internet downtime, whatever is remembered as to why they should have their entire month refunded. We were taught that a satisfied customer would leave and so very satisfied was the goal. We had surveys and sales quotas too and you’d get in trouble for not making metrics. That was the worst job I ever had. Coworkers constantly went on stress leave. I recommend it to no one.
I can’t debate the other two points but I had to say that.
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Thats 100% false.
TBC launched in 2007 and paid server transfers launched in 2006.
Not 100% false. They had very limited paid server transfers from one server to another and only within the same battlegroup and only among the same server type.
You said “no server transfers”.
You could transfer from any server to any server of the same type when it launched.
The only restrictions are the same restrictions we have in this version, no pve to pvp xfers.
They need to DELETE the Classic era realms as soon as SOM ends, relaunch TBC and have ONLY a TBC Classic with no other versions, then launch WoTLK Classic from there. Have only two versions of WoW. Classic and retail. No need for Classic+ TBC+ WoTLK + SOM + Retail. We are going to have WoW split up into FIVE parts soon. and with the 300 total servers to be running at that time that would mean if every sever was balanced there would be barely over 600 people per server per average and there at that point will be so few people that you could COMBINE the entire population of almost 10 servers and barely fill an entire guild. So yea WoTLK launching will kill WoW as they are planning to split it from TBC as well.
You couldn’t transfer to full servers (they were locked). So unlike today you couldn’t transfer from a dead realm to one with 30K+ players. Allowing players to do that has absolutely decimated many servers.
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I don’t think they can just get rid of all these expansions. I think they said they were going to in some way merge SoM with ERA then restart SoM when it’s over.
Honestly in my perfect world they would find a way to connect all of these ecosystems.
One set of ERA or “fun” servers that involves a lot of changes, maybe some scaling stuff to keep characters relevant. Basically porting any / all of your 60 / 70 / 80 characters into the same world. Maybe everyone gets an instanced player house as a central base to act as a trophy room for your armors and achievements. You can leave the house via portals to Azeroth, Outland, or Northrend. Where there would be stuff going on to watch or participate in.
Blizzard can run interesting invents to liven up and change the dungeons and stuff and get players playing out in the world, almost like a grand tournament server. World PvP events etc. both fun and competitive type events (dungeon races or whatever, or totally ridiculous stuff like a random war of 100 v 100 orcs and human NPCs taking place somewhere and players have to help turn the tide of battle).
Then another set of servers for SoM, where there is just an on-going cycle of Classic → TBC → WOTLK on repeat almost to act as a museum and entertainment for the “fresh” community. Where you can also cut your teeth and make a new character to then be moved to the ERA realms whenever you are ready, but before the end of the cycle.
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People with this attitude is why blizzard gets away with the garbage they do. This is a SUB video game you are paying $250+ a year for a game. What game requires you to pay this much $$ to play? Asking for a semi healthy server population isn’t a lot. $25 USD for an xfer is ridiculous. The choices blizzard has made has forced players to make the decisions they have. Most will pay….some won’t out of principal. However when the game begins to be unplayable then you have two choices as a player quit or pay $. How is this fair your logic is just stupidity.
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Personal opinion
I dont disagree with you… I said if you really care you should unsub and talk with your wallet instead of complaining on forums.
Because if you continue to sub then they dont care. How you can ever disagree with that is wild.
I’m bashing the garbage your putting out defending blizzards poor choices. They have literally let the player base ruin the servers. This makes total sense if your ponying up your $$$ for xfers. Why would you ever waste your $$$ to xfer to a medium low pop server? Your going to go a max population let’s be real. The fact they never locked those servers has further escalated the issue. Now we have mega servers. So until blizzard does something to address the real problem it will continue to get worse. People will continue to slowly bleed away until WOTLK.
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Sure but that was a different time and the servers had much more limitations.
The servers back then still had mega servers for each faction.
For instance Dark Iron started out as the best Alliance server, then it went to Kel’Thuzad and then Sargeras.
Comparing a prog server 15 years after the original servers isnt apples to apples.