No consequences, No tension, too many God powered characters

He tripped on the way to the next major battle and he jusssst missed it.

Cuts to Malfurion stroking his beard in front of a vending machine trying to decide if he wants the gluten free chips, or full flavor while Hyjal burns again in the back ground.

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reaches for his wallet, finds no money in it TYRANDE!!! I NEED YOU!

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I would like to officially sponsor whatever expac this is featured in.

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If the hero is vastly stronger than the villain and always wins…they feel more like a bully than a hero to me…

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Power levels are too variable in WoW. They just change on the story needs. I mean Jaina is going to help us escape from the Underhold in the Baine scenario because she apparently can’t fight her way out.

They always go from destroying whole armies in cinematic to running away from a couple mobs in different scenarios.

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Precisely. Blizzard is very good at saying the character is powerful instead of showing it.

Also they seem to think raw power = character development.

But…well just look at Tyrande, she’s a demigod now and she is still a boring character who acomplished nothing and couldn’t even kill the writters’s self insert.

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Because night elves arnt allow anything that actually means anything, cause they’re unfortunately part of the Alliance when HUmans exist. :slight_smile: HUmans just get other races interesting things but better, cause humans.

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Shut up Garou.

And as always Tyrande comes in just a second too late! The Horde took all the goodies from the vending machine!

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Dammit! The villains are working hard for their dreams too!

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See, in the hands of a decent writer this could actually work.

The Alliance has nukes in the form of various super characters and the Horde has nukes in the form of assorted super weapons and there’s an implicit understanding that if one side lets loose with its nukes the other side will use its own.

And there we have an actual reason why neither side will use any of its super weapons because they know that neither of them will win if the nukes fly.

Instead we ended up with the mess we have in our laps now.

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I’m feeling plenty of tension over here. Get to play the “How many night elves are going to join the Horde out of gratitude for being murdered?” game. All consequences, no payoff. It’s an awful game really. Don’t know why I play.

Man I would legit love to see a cold war style expac that follows the normal we unite against a common threat, but theres this ungodly tension whenever any of either sides more aggressive characters are even close to the other faction.

Sure, but Sylvanas still beat Genn in that fight and afterwards still gets so many more badass moments, like the BfA cinematic for example, whereas Genn gets knocked aside by a meme character’s lightning bolt then forgotten about until the end of the cinematic when Anduin heals everyone.

Why can’t we be allowed to see a Worgen rip through a bunch of bad guys? The only time we got to see that was in the comic explaining their backstory and even there, it was the Pack form that did that. Worgen used to be capable of ripping up demons and were the reason the Scourge couldn’t break through the Greymane Wall, but ever since then we’ve just seen them get Worf’d over and over again.

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Oh yeah I remember the cool moment where she got owned by Arthas in HoR, or when she messes up her own assassination attempt on him in WC3 by wanting to take to long, when she got shot in the back of the head and died to her own most recent recruits. The only cool thing she’s done for ages is the battle for Lorderon thing, and death staring Garrosh until he felt uncomfortable, everything else is her looking dumb or weak.
Genn was literally shredding a felguard in the Broken Shore cinimatic, defeated and mauled Nathanos after Nathanos taunts him into worgen form with npcs commenting that his face is arguably worse then it was pre rejuvenation, and completely ruins Sylvanas’s plans in Stormheim and gets the last word in in their fight and Genns only been around since Cata.
He has plenty of good boy moments and Sylvanas has plenty of red shirt moments.

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At least Arthas was actually a powerful threatening character and not some meme-y Troll Shaman. Because if anyone can threaten Sylvanas, it would be the literal damn Lich King.

One single felguard vs. Sylvanas destroying an Alliance battle tower and killing a large number of footmen then ghosting out and melting even more whereas we barely see Genn cut through a single Horde soldier and only defended Anduin from Saurfang because Saurfang was holding back anyway.

Skipping over the part where she had him completely at her mercy and her wanting to taunt and torture him let him escape. If you want to take it from one cinematic, then sure Genn looks like a nerd in comparison, but that’s not counting all the other stuff Genn has done, and all the massive failures Sylvanas has done. The only time Genn is shown failing in something he attempts, killing her in Stormheim, he still wins by destroying her lantern.
And if we want to talk about that one fel guard example specifically, a creature of the same race killed Vol’jin in one strike, and right after that cuts to Genn bodying something of the same race.

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Vol’jin gets weak treatment too, no argument.

My point is Blizzard doesn’t care to show powerful moments for certain characters like Genn, Vol’jin, Baine, etc. They are not popular enough to the writers to get such a courtesy, for whatever reason, even if the playerbase would like to see them used more and given more respect in the narrative.

At least in the case of Genn, I have no idea what point there is to his character in this story, the immense power-ups they continue to give Jaina or Tyrande and their overuse of Jaina throughout the plot makes me feel like characters like Genn do not fit anywhere and just exist to make Jaina look powerful and unstoppable.

I mean, I agree that certain characters, often more interesting then the op ones, get bad treatment to make them look better, but Genn isnt one of them. Sylvanas is the strongest thing in the Horde, and he still “takes her future.” and is fine afterwards. But no one will ever come close to getting as done dirty as Cairne, one of the best characters they had, killed offscreen in a book by poison.

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