No Changes to Paladins and Boomies in Phase 6 - Unwinnable BGs still for PUG Horde

They literally have that right now… you have no idea what you are talking about. I am in a BG right now with with 4 piece dragon stalker on and still have almost 13k hp…

They already do 50% less on their main damage.

None of these people even understand how pallies do DMG. They are so hung up on bubble that they fail to understand more then 60% of our burst rotation is the auto with 2 seals in that 1-2 globals u are getting hit 6-7 times if we are in bubble we can’t do that a second time because of the 100% ats nerf

what you dont understand is nobody cares that you cant 2 global people 2 times in a row while bubbled.

they care that you can even do the one 2 global while immune to nearly everything in the game in the first place.

they need to keep the current restrictions and also add a -50% damage done while bubbled and be done with it.

NO CLASS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO IMMUNE TO NEARLY EVERYTHING IN THE GAME AND ALSO BE ABLE TO 2 GLOBAL YOU WHILE DOING SO.

we clear now?

No class should be able to grant fear/sap/charm immunity while also blocking offensive spells doing 2k DPS to 5 people simultaneously while also having 400hps passive healing at all times but shammys exist. Bubble has always existed and shammys literally hard counter pally with a single button sorry we have a single button to counter that every 5 min. Make seals immune to dispell and I’ll agree to a bubble DMG reduction… Also just saying a 50% DMG reduction in bubble won’t stop a pally from singling out and killing 1 target in the 12 seconds they are immune just means they will have to use their full kit and hoj to do it

yawn .

you mean like pallies can with the totem they ganked from shaman but now its a mobile aura?

but whatever.

nothing youve mentioned , or other people have mentioned , is even on the scale of unfairness as being able to GO COMPLETELY IMMUNE TO NEARLY EVERYTHING IN THE GAME (cc/purge/damage other than balefire bolt) AND ALSO BE ABLE TO 2 GLOBAL PEOPLE WHILE IMMUNE.

sorry but no matter how you slice it or try and play the “but look over here at this different thing” card , its clearly busted that someone can do that.

I mean if I wanted to go look over here I’d point out hunter doing more burst then pallies from 35 yards with 3 globals but I like how u conviently want to over look seals shouldnt be dispellable since without seals paladins are literally just bad warriors

the fact that they are dispellable is a counter to being able to 2 global people.

there isnt always a shaman or a priest to purge it btw , what happens then?

ya you get 2 globaled with no recourse.

sure there are indeed other things that are op.

none of them are on the same scale of unfairness as being able to go completely immune to nearly everything in the game while also being able to 2 global people at the same time as being immune.

Person singular stop saying people a ret can only 2 global someone every 15 seconds it requires an AA and judgment on a stunned/repentanced target to do that burst (soc judge does like 30% more DMG to stunned targets.) The funny part is p6 ret will probably be in the dumpster because 90% of our power is coming from set bonuses so unless we can core forge Aq gear we are doa in p6… Also just for argument sake technically it’s not 1 globaling people as we had to use 3 globals before we can even start the engagement so by the time it’s all said and do we are using 5+ globals to hit you 7 times in one swing

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based and true

Yeah bubble is OP its true but it’s barely ever up. Meanwhile shamans are just skeying around taking 0 damage at all times just spamming chimeras into them for 350 non crit damage. Every shaman I see is the dumbest player on the planet and it takes 75 globals to kill them nothing is more boaring. bear druids with 20khp just skeying around spinning flags… it is so boaring. remove tank runes from the game.

I don’t care what anyone says wote is providing more than 10% dam reduction. I don’t think there is anything wrong with shamans damage output. But the fact that I crit them like 5% of the time and they take like 30% less damage than every other non tank class in the game is just lame.

Meanwhile everyone is crying about boomkins that just die. They get stunned 1 time dead. Gripped in by a war? dead. See em pop starfall? CCd dead. I also don’t see how paladins are just globalling everyone in the game when people have 13khp…

Generally in bgs unless they have no gear or I have wild strikes I don’t global people. Unless it’s a mage or priest. But I usually can burst them inside of hoj if I use everything

That I can see. But if they have pvp gear buffs and a healer I don’t see how anyone can get globald by any one class in the game in a BG.

Ret with wild strikes can get pretty nutty I’ve gotten 9k in a single auto from a ws proc and a hoj proc chain and soc proced on 2 of the 3 hits

Yea with fresh dropping idk if I am even gonna play SoD anymore. Anytime blizzard thinks they are gonna make new modern stuff it turns to excrement.

say what you want but it happens on the regular both to me (my shaman has 9k hp with 3 set and flask) and other people i see getting 2 globaled by pallies in the bgs . im quite sure it happens in wpvp too but in that everyone is 2 globaling people so it doesnt matter.

i know for a fact that they can do it with consistent results so please dont try and tell me to not believe my lying eyes.

please also, dont try and deny it happens on a regular basis.

Idk how in a BG you only have 9khp with a flask on…

He’s got pve gear on still, I think with flask and fort I only have 8 or 9k on my pally.

Yeah but hes a shaman… and they get 30% more hp.