The unadaptable posh night elves who live on stolen troll land may be going extinct…
But Zandalar is forever!
In all seriousness though, factions throughout Azeroth’s history have been on the rise and decline. The present shouldn’t be special. If nothing big ever happened to repaint the territory map, then we’d have more complaints about how WoW’s story is boringly static thanks to its MMO nature.
The story telling for BFA from the Alliance point of view has been nothing short of awful. I cannot fathom what in the world they were thinking.
The whole Night Elf story was pretty underwhelming for them. I am excited to see where the night warrior powers take Tyrande though and I hope Malfurion’s rage level of burying people alive continues.
I was pretty annoyed with Tyrande getting all of the new powers and still being pretty weak against Nathanos and a few Valks, but we need to keep in mind she just learned her new powers and will need some time to train and harness them better.
Without her powers, Tyrande should have owned those scrubs. A few Val’kyr we killed in ICC and a human who best ability is is as good as an elf (so maybe as good with a bow as Tyrande is)?
Add in Malfurion and there is no excuse for the writing.
That’s Blizzard for ya. Some of the Alliance leaders have god-like powers and the horde is basically just Warriors yet the Alliance still struggles to fight them.
Malfurion should have been able to wipe out everyone alone. I guess the horde is lucky God Illidan wasn’t here.
Could not agree more.
Look, it’s not that Alliance players want half-‘a-word’ writing that says: “OK, Tyrande drops a nuke on Orgrimmar, the Horde’s dead. Happy?”… we just want an uplifting story that makes us proud to be members of the Alliance.
I’ll give Horde this much: your story really has gone downhill from where it started in this expansion with the Garrosh 2.0 follow-through, but look at where you started:
Horde spend two weeks ravaging and pillaging Night Elf lands - they end by bringing the Alliance leaders to their knees and deciding that a military victory wasn’t enough… they actually allowed Horde to win so hard that they basically commit genocide of the entire Night Elf race.
Then, in the Battle of Lorderaon, the Alliance is made out to be utterly incompetent… blundering their way to victory, BUT WAIT, not all is as it seems: the Horde get the last laugh. Everything’s evacuated, and the city itself is turned into the Alliance leaders (and players) GRAVE… would it not be for the sudden intercession of Jaina (who saved our bacon twice in a 20 minute scenario). They make it a point to rub in how utterly phyrric this victory is, as Sylvanas leaves, smiling… and the Alliance leaders are pissed.
Then Horde get the most stunning cinamatic imaginable of Horde characters reacting to the Horde conquest - in 3 amazing cinamatics, the only time it’s not about a Horde character is when two Alliance characters are talking about how badly Horde is kicking their asses.
Nothing that’s happened since then has approached the level of immersion and awesomeness of the opening gambit for BFA… at least for one faction. Everyone playing Alliance who cares even an iota for story and immersion just got their face shoved into the dirt.
Most didn’t stick around to see Tyrande’s “revenge” (another 20 minute scenario where we inconvience Sylvanas’ boyfriend a little bit and call it a win with absolutely no reference to it even happening afterwards), or the Battle of Zandalar, where we more or less go through a raid, killing trolls we don’t know, lose Mekkatorque and nearly Jaina… claiming a relic we never use… and it’s a win because, what, Blizzard said so?
It feels like every Alliance victory after the opening of BFA was given by Blizzard, reluctantly - like a GM at a D&D Table when the players complain how one-sided or bad the story is: “FINE, Tyrande gets revenge because Night Warrior and you beat the Zandalar Trolls and kill their figurehead. Happy?”
Ill leave the biased story writing and hatred for Kaldorei by the Devs to their own demise, eventually they Horde biased creators will be gone and maybe we can actually get some fair minded story writers and devs in their place. Like Alex Afrasiabi once said on stage , I want to see Stormwind Burn, Guess he was referring to Teldrassil instead.
Wait for Stormwind to burn in 8.3 and the night elf and gilnean refugees to be brutally slaughtered there with another short story
That is the benefit we reap for having our entire faction villain batted and relegated to in-fighting yet again for the sake of the games overall narrative.
My brother in Zandalar speaks true, the balance of power in Azeroth is ever-shifting. Why should this be any different? Zandalari are an established race and once controlled the whole of known Azeroth, should I curse Blizzard’s name for ceding our land over to you uncouth savages of lesser races?
I still refuse to believe that’s the direction this is going. I know it seems like a credible leak, but the best trolls are.
If they have Sylvanas actually conquer Stormwind because we leave it undefended without knowing where the Horde army is, I’m literally race changing to Horde so I can farm Anduin so much that the game finally says: “You win, he’s not respawning.”
If the story is done in a logical manner where people aren’t acting out of character, no.
If you get hit with repeated terrible fanfiction fever dreams, yes. That’s how I would describe a significant portion of the main story in BfA. It’s as if they are doing what they want and don’t care at all about context or how anything flows.
What’s annoying is there are some great stories within BfA. You just have to get past and ignore the atrocious parts.
The DEVs and story witters and lost all credibility with me, I don’t have any interest in what junk they put out nowadays. I just log in and do my daily stuff & log off.
Burning Teldrassil seemed like a very Sylvanas thing to do imo.
Oh, I agree with that for sure. The entirety of the Horde having her back? Not a chance. She should not of had a leg to stand on in BfA.
God I still hate void elves, such a dumb handfisted introduction. Alliance should have just gotten high elves.
Lorthe’mar: Hey, stop using the void, it might corrupt the sun well.
Void Elves: lol, no.
Lorthe’mar: Alright, banished!
Void Elves: We feel betrayed.
– enter Alleria –
Lorthe’mar: I’m worried your presence might hurt the sunwell.
– sunwell goes crazy –
Lorthe’mar: Yeah, get out.
Alleria and Void Elves: We feel betrayed!
So stupid.
Edit: corrected a name per user pointing it out.
I will admit that, when you look at all the races as they transitioned from WC3 to WoW, the Night Elves got the worst treatment.
I hate how Void Elves were simply made to fit a narrative. And not in a good way. It’s not like they existed prior to their addition and it’s silly to think their numbers would help us in any reasonable way in this war. Also, I seriously question what druids must be thinking of what the Void Elves are doing to those dinosaurs.
lol I really need to not think about Allied Races and their implementation because it’s just so easy to pick it apart. And that’s both sides.
I think they OP needs to abandon this idea of “compensation”.
There is no compensation in story telling. And who wants to listen to a story about two sides doing EXACTLY the same amount of damage to each other.
The night elves got dealt a knockdown blow, no question. You don’t have to like it but you should probably come to terms with it and accept that their story will go a different way from now on. Just like it did in WC3 when Telsrassil didn’t even exist.
That’s not what happened at all. I’m guessing you didn’t play the Alliance war campaign, because they do actually expand on void elf lore there. Basically the void elves are Alliance loyalists who took issue with the fact that the government of Silvermoon associated itself with the Horde after the Third War (which makes a lot of sense, since all Blood Elves are High Elves and High Elves are part of the Alliance, so there’s bound to be a lot of crossover there). They were politically dissident even before they were banished from Silvermoon, and their experiments with the void were explicitly done so that they would not need to be bound to a magical source controlled by a government they did not agree with.
Currently, the void elves feel like they have surpassed the powers of Silvermoon and fear what the Horde may do with their knowledge, so they fight for the Alliance with the express purpose of re-unifying Silvermoon under the blue banner.
It has nothing to do with being expelled from Silvermoon. If Silvermoon was already part of the Alliance and the void elves were still expelled, they wouldn’t just go over to the Horde and cry victimization.
Also;
Who on earth is this?
My bad, I meant Alleria, I’ll edit. Typing quick at work.
And yeah, I have them unlocked and have done the war campaign. Though I only spend about 5% of my actual playtime on alliance.
I’m going off of Lorthe’mar’s own words, he said he expelled them for tampering with the void and he was worried about the effect it would have on the sunwell. He even states there are a lot of dissidents in silvermoon. Some are happy with status quo, some want to go back to alliance, some are sympathetic to Kael’thas, some want to seek bloody vengeance against Jaina. He wants to work with all groups to promote unity, but he said the void would not be tolerated. And then a lot of their dialogue during the unlock IS all about how they are bitter that they were banished. They obviously got more face-time in BFA, but I think a lot of it was to give them a bit more identity outside of what they were first introduced with.
Which, would mean also needing to kick out a lot of priests, and there are a bunch of warlocks openly practicing. But like I said, hamfisted, and doesn’t change the fact that just doing High Elves, which were already introduced, dissident from current government of Silvermoon, and pro alliance, would have all gone over better with the community.
Especially the idiocy of the whole alliance completely trusting Alleria and the void elves when both horde and alliance are currently fighting against the old gods which were created by the Void Lords. Beings so terribly evil that the burning crusade was created.
Edit: I went and looked their lore up on the wiki. I was not Lorthe’mar that kicked them out, it was Rommath.
But: " A blood elf magister, Umbric, was determined that the sin’dorei would never fall prey to their enemies again (referring to Arthas and Scourge). Convinced that the void was essential to the defense of Silvermoon, Umbric and his followers delved into it against the wishes of Quel’Thalas’ Grand Magister, Rommath. Eventually, Rommath had them banished, reasoning that any who treat with the void pose a danger to the Sunwell, and Umbric led his followers south to the Ghostlands to pursue their research."
" Returning to Azeroth, Alleria was forced to face several hard truths, among them her people’s alliance with the Horde. Although the rulers of her kingdom had never held the loyalty to the Alliance that Alleria herself had come to feel – indeed, Quel’Thalas had rescinded its membership in the Alliance under her former king Anasterian’s rule, and relations had only worsened since – she was determined to see Silvermoon stand again on the Alliance’s side, and was certain that her people would shrug off the Horde if given the choice."
“Alleria immediately offered her aid, wanting to help her transformed kin understand and control their new forms and powers, and Umbric, apologizing for his arrogance, happily accepted. Feeling that Silvermoon had turned its back on him long ago, Umbric swore his allegiance to Alleria and the Alliance.”
So you are wrong too, it wasn’t the void elves trying to join up with the Alliance due to political dissidence with Silvermoon. In fact, they were persuing better ways to protect silvermoon until they were then kicked out. It was at Alleria’s urging since they had been “abandoned” that they agreed to join the Alliance.