NGL Hogwarts Legacy looks good

You’re right on that, but I liked the builds better in CP and the story as well

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if you guys do end up buying Cyberpunk, just know that Blue Moon is my waifu and please do not touch.

You can have Judy if you want, she’s kind of annoying.

Judy is when I play my women character or transwomen.

But as a male character, Panam all the way. There’s something just about her…and her…jeans…that just makes me happy.

Umm listen, I’m into guys and even I went for Panem. She’s HOT

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That sucks, I loved it. To each their own! Right now I’m playing Persona5Royal which is hilarious because I usually despise weeb stuff.

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Lol, I’m playing through Dragon Age Inquisition with the intent to finish it this time. Last time I played I never got past Hinterlands.

Eager to see Dreadwolf tho

That scuba part was so boring. I understand it was meant to give me more of a personal connection to her, but it just seemed to drag on.

Panam’s story was far more interesting. I actually went into it thinking I’d hate the Nomads but ended up enjoying their little settlement and hobo lifestyle quite a bit.

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There’s only one thing I noticed during the scuba scene. :~)

(it was an actual option I could select… so)

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Ain’t that the truth. Them some nice scuba gear

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It was moved to the gaming section and out of GD.

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Ah ok, haven’t had coffee yet so missed that. :coffee:

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Kind of want to play Origins again myself.

Being honest with you, i’ve rewatched Harry Potter 1-4 and watched 5 to 8 (7-2), over the coarse of nov to dev, and i didn’t expect to suddenly really like it and be excited for the game. :smiley:

As somebody who only played Chamber of Secerts and beat Prisoner of Akzaban on the Ps2, this game looks brilliant. :slight_smile: :+1:

Haven’t pre-ordered yet, because i’m waiting for the reviews and such.

Artist can be separated from the art.

Also, guilt by association is a fallacy. A Person buying a game because they want a fun game does not mean they are morally in the wrong or a bad person, or support the values of their creator. To suggest that is silly.

Not to mention, this sort of thinking applies to everybody here, even us. Even if were not playing Activision-Blizzard games, we would be paying them still anyways since they collect our tax returns. And those are the same guys that did… what exactly again like a year and a half ago?.. Do Americans agree with the values of the government, just because they are living there?..

Going with a personal example of mine, Will Wright, the creator of The Sims, have donated money to support John McCain’s Campaign back in 2008, i.e, somebody on the right. So does that mean if you play bought The Sims (which is pretty dang inclusive btw), you support Will Wright’s political views? I’m a moderate left, and while i disagree vehemently for what he did politically, that opinion ultimately has nothing to do with the games themselves.


If you don’t want to buy the game because you think of somebody’s political decision that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual quality, go for it. But i draw the line when you start essentially ordering people around to do the same or else they are bad people. As your “Betrayal of that community” implies.

Also… hold up, are you also implying that LGBT+ can’t like Harry Potter because of what JK rowling thinks?.. I’m pretty sure they have the capacity to separate the art from the artist. Let alone know about the original creator of the franchise. Heck, … Do even the straight people who like Harry Potter even know about JK rowling, or her books even?..

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Your post in reply to me is honestly a word salad, but I’ll try to address it.

Art can sometimes be separated from the artist, you are correct. But my argument isn’t ‘game bad because of J. K. Rowlings views’, nor am I judging anyone for spending their money the way they want to. You want the game because you think it looks cool/fun and you’re willing to pay for it? That’s your decision.

My decision is as follows: Because I know J. K. Rowling is going to collect royalty money from this game, I don’t feel like I can reasonably buy this game and still claim to support the trans community. So I will not buy it.

If you want to? Go for it. Your money, your purchases and I am in no position to judge.

Well it’s a nice thing of me to include this at the beginning,
in the event if you want a shorter version of what i’ve said. :point_down: :stuck_out_tongue:

Not sometimes, all the times.

I wasn’t trying to make that argument. I’m simply saying, you’re guilting people who are buying the game because of your beliefs, and that’s the issue i’m taking.

…Then why did you say “betraying the community” if you’re not trying to judge people? in your initial comment?

I don’t think the Trans community is going to be all up in arms over you owning a video game that has a transphobe loosely connected.

I mean, you can be LGBT and like Harry potter, their two separate things.

Heck, on a whim, i’ve searched up on this, and i’ve seen some articles and such discussing on why there’s so many LGBT fans, as well a FB literally named “Harry Potter LGBT fans”, as well the list of characters HP universe that are LGBT. Quite a few in the double digits actually.

But you know what, maybe i’m missing something here. Maybe J.K Rowling is getting way more money then what the Devs or the current holder of the franchise is getting. If so, then, yea i could see how that’s bad, but only because she’s just collecting the money off of other people’s work without lifting much of a finger. And the Transphobia stuff is just the proverbal cherry on top or the excuse to try to get her… not paid.

Honestly, i think her saying “Oh the people just go to the bathroom on themselves back in the day” should be worthy of that alone, because… eww. come on. :face_vomiting:

Yes, J.K Rowling actually said that.

No, not all the time.

I for example, cannot separate Rolf Harris the man from his art. I cannot enjoy his music now, knowing that he molested children.

Sometimes it’s forgiveable. Sometimes it’s possible to separate the art from the artist, but not always.

But I’m not, at all.

I’m not throwing shade at anyone. I’m not guilting anyone. I am expressing my opinion on whether or not I will purchase the game, and in that specific passage of mine that you quoted, railing against someone who called me a child because I don’t think buying the game for myself is appropriate.

Because for me it would be a betrayal. I have many friends who are trans, even family. I love them all dearly and respect their decisions. For me, if I were to buy this game I would feel like I am betraying them.

What you do with your money is your business. I have no right to judge and I am not going to guilt you into not buying something you want to buy. But I will not buy the game myself for reasons stated.

I still listen to Mindless Self Indulgence, despite the fact i know Jimmy Urine sexually assaulted a minor.

Art can be separated always.

Nobody’s asking you to forgive.

I’m simply saying, the stuff you enjoy, doesn’t mean you actually support 100% of their values or things they do. You can still enjoy Rolf Harris. Listening to it, doesn’t mean you’re a bad person for liking it.

You were basicly ordering somebody by pitting them against the LGBT community essentially, in this “if you buy this, YOUR SUPPORTING A TERRIBLE BIGOT!!” like-- what you expect somebody to take from that when you say those things then?.. :expressionless: :palm_up_hand:

…Why, are you letting them control what you want to do and say?.. I mean, shouldn’t friends and family understand the differences and what they might not like or like between each other?..

If my friend is against any games that was made by say… Ubisoft because of how they harassed women, and i’m wanting Far Cry 7, i don’t think they would even care or would understand that i like them, and they don’t, and that’s the end of that.

I don’t let people, especially my family, control me what i can or cannot like. And i highly doubt that would let me control them as well. I rather not be miserable in thinking that way tbh.

Just … have a talk with them. See if they would care, or ask if there would be anything that can be done.

Or if your really hate the idea of giving money to J.K Rowling, then… idk, buy the game used? Thrid Party sellers never give the money back to first sellers usually. I mean, when is the last time the devs of Cabala’s Dangerous hunts 1 got money?..

By that logic, you can’t claim that you don’t support sexual harassment, because you are playing a Blizzard game. Which is worse than anything JK Rowling has said.

And I’d be willing to bet you own at least one product that involved child labor in its making. Does that mean you condone it?

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Okay, listen, both of you.

My opinion on whether or not I will be buying this game will NOT change.

So don’t try to logic around and attempt to convince me that it’s okay to buy the game. I will not agree with you and I will not buy the game.

You are free to do anything you want with your money. I respect your decision, it’s not my place to judge, condemn or guilt you into doing something you don’t want to do. Please respect my decision not to buy the game in the same way I’ll respect your decision to buy it if you choose to.

Thank you.

First off, I just don’t think it’s right for your folks to control you like that.
Second, Kharneus does bring up a sensible point since we are all aware of what Blizzard has done. And not to mention, not every company is innocent either. He’s essentially saying what i’ve been saying; guilt by association is a fallacy.

I’m not asking you to agree with me or buy the game, i’m asking you to take control of your life instead of letting yourself being essentially bullied by your own blood.

You think i love it when my family tries to force me to vote or else try to make me look like a bad person because i didn’t vote anybody? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Don’t buy the game, fine, but… dang, stand up for yourself… :confused: