I just want to make sure we understand what “easy” means.
Your 5mans will wipe. Multiple times. You will die. You will try quests that you will have to give up on and come back to in a few levels. It will take you a long, long time, compared to modern, to level up.
But you can do it from the comfort of your own home and be having fun with friends while doing it.
To expand better on that: Quest level ranges were done horribly. A level 12 quest that you pick up at level 10 will put a level 15 mob in your way. The polish just wasn’t there yet. But that was only really a minor inconvenience, just do a different quest then go back. Once you can start dungeons everything gets a little smoother since there’s always that option.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I shall think more about it.
As long as you go in with the understanding that you will be going at a slower pace compared to some people, you’ll be fine. As someone said above, don’t measure your progress against the progress of others.
Also know that just because you have “studied” what the game used to be, does not mean you understand it. This is not a bad thing, and should not deter you from your goals. I say it mainly to tell you to keep your goals flexible. Once you start playing you may decide a different path would be more enjoyable. If you start to feel that is the case, don’t let your original goals prevent you from making new goals/having fun.
That said, I wish you the best of luck. Leading a raiding guild is not easy, even more so in vanilla, but if that truly is what you want to do in this game then it is possible to do.
THat’s funny…
I don’t see that as a flaw or lack of “polish”…
I think it was 100% intentional. It’s part of making the world feel more realistic.
Most regions in reality don’t scale in bad-arsery the further you walk into them xD
Of course there is some of that, but like for example having scarlet monestary in the undead starting area(sometimes you would get f’d by an lvl 28 elite as a lvl 8 undead if you weren’t careful). 100% intentional, and it adds to danger and mystery of the world. It’s meant to feel more organic, instead of a planned route.
If that’s really what you want, then you need to man up (or woman up). There’s no room for self-doubt if you want to form and run a 40-man raiding guild. You need confidence, charisma, and balls of solid rock. And lots of spare time. If you work a 40 hour a week job, just know that playing and managing a raiding guild will likely be another 40 hours a week on top of that. It can be an extremely rewarding experience, but it is not for the faint of heart.
Dont listen to those people. Honestly, if you really think about it the difference to then and now is just the amount of time it took to do stuff.
why ask someone else.
I am going to play for the rpg/WPvP/earning my place on the server I call home.
You can do what you wish but understand nothing is given.
Take your time and enjoy the game. Learn your class, be flexible as well, i.e. be willing to take up rolls you might not want to take, but more importantly, expect others to know as much, or even less than you do. A lot of the game now is very different than Vanilla. Once you find a guild, or even just a core group of friends, it comes in handy to have some idea of what other classes can do.
But play to have fun.
I suspect there might be more to it than that. Who is shooting you down with that kind of comment?
Is it people on this forum, in response to a thread saying you’re excited for WOW Classic … BUT {fill in the blank with changes}? If so, that’s a defensiveness that isn’t directed at you so much as the idea WOW Classic should be altered to be more palatable to modern players.
Is it people in-game (Retail) who don’t want to play WOW Classic themselves? If so, they’re projecting their own opinions of the game onto you - and not really caring whether you genuinely would like it or not.
I’d say there’s no reason to avoid it just because of other people’s statements. Worst case, you discover it is not the game for you. What will you have lost? Some time and effort, sure, but few people have managed to go through their entire lives without wasting some time and effort on things that don’t pan out.
This is a fine goal. However, you didn’t mention if you know that many people already who would want to be in your guild. If not, I will note that guild recruitment is hard work, running a guild is a thankless job, and you’ll be competing against other guild leaders who may have played during vanilla, as well as some who have played on private servers coming over with whole groups.
Point being that you can certainly play, you can certainly start a guild and recruit, but it is an ambition that not everyone can succeed at. (Think of it like wanting to be an astronaut - many can have the desire, some have the skill, and only a tiny number actually qualify and achieve that goal. Yet becoming a member of mission control instead may not be a failure - just a redirection that is still good enough.)
Here is what I would do.
Start the game, it will be completely different than what you know. You might get to level 20 and decide that you hate the play style of class X and maybe you’ll like another one better etc etc.
Join a casual guild and level up with them. Network, build friendships and learn from people who will help you.
Once you get to 60 I would do your time as a regular raider through at least UBRS/MC and learn how a guild and raid of such a large size functions.
Once you have that under your belt you can start your own guild and recruit people who are fresh 60s or 45-60 and you can lead them through what you just did and then you can push through the higher content as it comes out in the progressive waves.
Remember that in Vanilla with such large raids a GM didn’t micromanage and run the entire raid. They ran the officers and the officers ran their respective areas or departments as you will.
It wasn’t uncommon to have a Guild Master, a handful of officers and a designated raid leader. Everyone has a lot of responsibilities and the idea of taking on all of that as 1 person will be a very arduous task especially for a new to Vanilla player. It is doable, however I would recommend the above mentioned path to minimize headaches and increase your success rate. Good luck and I’ll see you around!
Molten Core, Zul’Gurub, Ruins of Ahn’Qiraj (AQ20) and Blackwing Lair are all < 3 hour raids (or faster if you are efficient) once on farm status. Onyxia’s Lair is about a 30 minute raid on farm status. Realistically you could clear all on farm in 12 hours or less of raiding per week.
Once you get to Temple of Ahn’Qiraj (AQ40) the big time sink is that there is a ton of dangerous trash and the place is so big you get an instance specific mount to help cut down travel time. At this stage you will probably be devoting your entire raid week to progression through the challenging bosses and farm status may take a long time to achieve.
Naxxramas is again a pretty large raid with a lot of difficult/dangerous trash and challenging bosses. Again at this point your guild will most likely be devoting the entire raid week to it.
Two big things that will slow you down is loot distribution and giving the raid slack time. Slack time is when people tend to go AFK, it seems like you are just standing around which you basically are. Instead I recommend keeping a pace that keeps players busy. Have a designated 15 minute break at the halfway point, so players know that a break is coming and for how long.
Just giving you a heads up. Most servers will have hardcore people from the old days forming raid progression guilds. And any server can realistically have only a limited amount of proper progression guilds.
Running a raid guild in Vanilla requires self confidence, political skill and massive amounts of patience.
The fact that you are questioning yourself because what others say is a red flag on the self confidence part. If I were you I would join a progression guild rather than forming one yourself and if you end up being dedicated enough you can become an officer there. Believe me that is work enough for most people.
Play it.
And keep in mind these forums are so much more toxic than the majority of people you will meet while playing.
edit: but avoid the murlocs for awhile