I think the void comes across as too degenerative and dangerous to really care for any balance with. The literal class resource for its primary player usage case is insanity. Alleria is a ticking time bomb, who had to bail out the Void Elves. Introducing a Shadow that, perhaps still with a certain amount of danger, but has a less inherently playing in a gasoline and fire match festival feel to it would be good for nuance in the cosmology.
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If you think Blizzard is going to literally and canonically merge Warcraft with Babylon 5 (copyright issues aside)⌠I have no words for how crazy you are.
No⌠no, youâre not serious, you canât be?
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You do know who youâre talking to, right?
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I merely assume Blizzard was using the Vorlons as inspiration for the First Ones since many Fans before me have drawn parallels between Oribos and Babylon 5 itself.
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? What I wrote is just a long way of saying the devs are spineless IRL and thus are spineless in their creations
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Phew, okay, I see now, fair enough. You talk with awfully⌠literal language, sometimes.
Regarding the question in the third paragraph; because some people have been comparing the naaru to the Vorlons from Babylon 5, along with the Light vsVoid conflict being compared to the Vorlons vs Shadows war.
Plus, given how the Vorlons end up as antagonists, some also plumb the show for excuses to justify the villain batting of the Light and naaru.
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Incidentally names have to be Trademarked to be protected as names canât be Copyrighted. Trademarked Names have to be constantly protected or the Trademark will be declared abandoned and they will have to file a new Trademark to replace it.
Does anyone know if the Vorlon Trademark still exists? I just checked and only found an abandoned(as in canceled due to someone else using it without getting sued) Trademark for an Electronic cigarette liquidâŚ
If it doesnât than Blizzard has nothing stopping it from using the name themselves(thatâs if they realize that they can use it thoughâŚ)!
Incidentally the Naaruâs top parts resemble the Centauri Hairstyle:
Naaru: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wowpedia/images/c/cd/Naaru.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181022201121
Centauri: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/babylon5/images/a/a7/ActsofsacrificeLondoVir01.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080420172755
If it turns out Blizzard is making the First Ones the WoW Counterpart to the Vorlons I wouldnât be surprised if the Naaru become counterparts of the Centauri.
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Uhhhhh what, only real one, what about, Life and Death being in the middle, thats no accident
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Someone didnt listen to the audio story from legion, they are already villain batted
The Vorlon trademark will last, according to current laws, until at least 50 years after the Babylon 5 showrunner dies, assuming he doesnât give someone else the rights.
The naaru are closer to the Vorlons than the Centauri.
- The Vorlons are energy beings, and in their natural form the Vorlonsâ energy takes the form of light. The cosmic force the naaru serve is the Light.
- The vorlons have presented themselves as figures from various religions, including angels. The naaru have served as analogous to angels in prior lore, especially towards the Draenei.
- There is a group founded and led by the Vorlons called Army of Light. Where have we heard a similar term in WoW?
- Naaru look like crystallized versions of Vorlonsâ real forms.
- The Vorlons diametrically opposed enemy is the Shadows. The Lightâs diametrically opposed enemy is the Void who might be getting renamed Shadow with the latest retcons.
- Edit: The Vorlon speech sounds like a sequence of overlapping musical tones, chirps and chimes. As the naaru do until they started getting voice-acted lines with Saaâra, Xeâra and Zârali.
I rest my case.
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Wisps given a lazy response
Guess theyâre listening to some lore gaps we point out
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âBeings of Eluneâs origin âcanât be trustedâ?â And what makes the author of this book trustworthy?
Seriously, Blizzardâs third love after retcons and Sylvanas seems to be contrarianism. And maybe the first and the third are connected.
This book is written in the perspective of Death by a Broker who thinks the cosmos exists to sustain the Shadowlands
A being of Life would not be trusted by a being of Death
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Been saying this since the reveal that Sylvanas lied in her headmovies.
Stop buying Blizzardâs out of game items.
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While that explains the in-universe reasoning, that still doesnât make the Brokersâ claim about Elune accurate.
The only people villain-batting there were some WoW fans salty about everyoneâs favorite naaru (!) punishing Alleria for her continued Void use; Xeâra might have gotten heavy-handed, but Alleria did lie/break a promise to her and collude with a sworn enemy so it wasnât without reason.
Thatâs kind of his point.
Unlike Chronicle, which theyâve retroactively implied paints things in a pro-titan light (it frankly doesnât, as itâs basically the story of how their efforts to spread Order have been derailed and corrupted at every turn. The first volume in particular basically boils down to âhow the titans failedâ and it pretty dryly assesses the titansâ own shortcomings when it comes to ignorance about certain aspects of reality), the Girmoire is outright told from the PoV of a Broker who seems to frequently and dogmatically editorialize his descriptions.
So indeed, his claim that a being such as Elune isnât to be trusted isnât true by virtue of his having said it, though admittedly it isnât made definitively false by that metric either.
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You forgot the visions of the light destroying all life on worlds
Not meant to be accurate, itâs meant to be shady and melodramatic
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The same visions that Alleria swiftly identified as lies.
The point of those visions wasnât to show what the Light actually does. It was a representation of the Voidâs hyperbolic aversion to the Light, wherein the Void sees its opposite as a force of fundamental rigidity and adherence to a single truth that excludes all else, at odds with the Voidâs own embrace of every infinite possibility being equally valid and true.
Ultimately its purpose was to drive home that the Void speaks a billion lies, but not because it knows theyâre lies. It does so because it thinks theyâre all true.
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