But you’re claiming that there is a sizeable portion of the playerbase that prefers a fresh experience. If so many players prefer fresh, then why did they happen to stop adding adding new servers at the point the population plateaued?
If so many players prefer F R E S H then you’d see a few new server every expansion. F R E S H is a private server mentality. Blizzard has never opened new servers for the express purpose of a the F R E S H experience.
The answer: ActiBli$$ion, hire some GMs for grief’s sake. A pipe dream? We all pay a sub and should get “Classic” referees as were a huge part of the original game. No one responded to the bot call outs made in Classic Vanilla, as is apparent. RMT bans just didn’t happen. I mean…I knew, personally, guildies who bought gold and had never had a problem buying from these online foreign RMTs. Foreign gold sellers are doing good business.
If nothing else, fresh will mitigate any sort of malicious activity for 3-4 months. TBC only lasts for so long, so that is significant. And a proactive community may mitigate even more toxic behavior. The cards are not stacked in the favor of Bot/RMT/GDKPs on fresh servers.
Fresh means giving up T3 BiS toons, alts, reputations, levels back to 1, gold. Possibly paying a few bucks extra.
The two changes that cause these things are reset to level 1 and a reset economy. Someone who gives up all of that, I would think, would be somewhat on alert about anything that would threaten the trueness of the fresh economy and state of play.
The F R E S H cult isn’t going to get their utopian version of wow. No matter how many times you and your legion of alts whine about it.
I would play on a fresh server if I can use a boost.
Agreed Jarvizz. I have never played on a single private server, yet here we are desiring a few fresh servers. IDK why people assume our attitude on fresh means we MUST have come from private servers. Nope. I bought TBC as soon as it released. Have been playing on and off since then. I skipped WOD and I did level to level 60 in Shadowlands…but I can’t get into trash expansions. I am just a WoW gamer crossing my fingers that there is an alternative to “Retail TBC” at all. I want fresh, and am not a private server person.
I will be sitting on the sidelines until fresh servers become reality. I can see that I haven’t missed much since I reached 60 in Shadowlands. Plays just like BFA, and I feel just fine that I dodged it. Awful economy. Easy catch-up mechanics.
Zydax:
ActiBli$$ion does update their populated servers, the cheapest way possible. They could migrate players however they please to make fresh an EASY reality.
Anne, literally zero of your posts here are arguments for or against fresh servers. You called me a Chad, and now you are calling supporters of fresh servers a “cult.” Who hurt you that you act this way? Grow up and find something productive to do other than just spew negativity on World of Warcraft forums.
I don’t jump all around the forums just attempting to incite negativity.
Supporters of fresh servers have voiced we want two things primarily: level 1 resets and reset economies.
Trying to be respectful to you. IDK if you have mental issues or what, but all I have seen out of you is BS.
You’re projecting. And it’s funny you accuse me of negativity when only recently you flooded more than one thread with disgusting feet posts.
I am against F R E S H because it won’t last. But the subsequent population issues will. I will not further explain that position because numerous people already have. So, yeah, I will not contribute to the argument. Doing so would only bump the thread, which I suspect is all you want anyway. Ciao.
Yeah. There are individuals who kiss ActiBli$$ion butt. And stinky feet. Like you. You want to stir the pot, call fresh supporters a cult, and tell us we MUST be on all of our alts in support of fresh servers.
Ok.
You have no pertinent point to make. At least when I call someone out, they are an individual. While I am making a point. So yeah…I want fresh servers. I am not a part of a cult. I don’t get on alts to voice my opinions on World of Warcraft forums.
Believe it or not, people in support of fresh have presence. Sorry.
Maybe is TBC servers stay populated for a few months.
Why does it matter how things were? A lot has changed. This whole experience, while nostalgic, is different. Everyone has a different iteration of WoW that speaks to them and makes them happy. That is TBC for me, even more so than Vanilla. As such, and in line with the logic Blizzard has presented as behind their well-minded (er, wallet-minded cough) intent in making all of the decisions (changes) they have made, be it boosts, QoL, or even offering classic in the first place, fresh caters to this ideal.
I think I agree with you Zydax: Blizzard hasn’t offered “f r e s h” for the sake of “f r e s h” before. And that is the problem with the game as it comes to us today with the understanding I expressed above, and in my prior comments. There is a mental block here that you are a curious proponent of. You argue not everyone wants this. This shouldn’t be considered because this is an “expansion.” To some, this is their “vanilla” experience. Furthermore, particularly considering how much more knowledge (and CPU power, etc.) we have today, the climate is entirely different. A fresh start gives us all a chance to start again, on the same footing, to partake in the experience of levelling, together. Togetherness and community is the heart of MMOs, imo. I and others really enjoyed this from the Classic experience. One last romp through Azeroth, en masse, before all working our way through the Dark Portal. All with people who have the same mindset and same desires. This sounds -awesome- to me. Sorry, as it sounds like this doesn’t sound like the ideal for some of you.
This also does, indeed, provide a reset to everything, namely the economy. Perhaps this won’t solve the botting issue and prevent a damaged economy from forming, but it will be a very different dynamic as opposed to what has occured and been allowed to accumulate over the last year and a half.
I still just don’t understand why you, and Anne, and others, have been so negatively charged towards those of us who want this, though.
We don’t get forced to play Horde or Alliance, warlock or mage. We get to choose. And having the choice in this instance would have no impact on any of you, but literally mean the world (of warcraft) to the significant number of us who continue to ask for this.
I guess you argue this would make population issues worse, Anne. So, this very well could affect you, whatever server(s) you’re on. I think I agree with this, tbh: it won’t solve the problem. You say Keldryd is projecting, though, but he is not; you are assuming and combative. The only thing here that is real and tangible is that a large number of people want this as their TBC experience. And have been asking for it. And for some reason people like you have decided you don’t like our vision. It’s ok that your vision is different. As Flobie said above, “the reason you fell behind is the reason you will again.” Here, I can make an assumption, too. What he really means in saying this is “I have accrued a massive advantage over other players, particularly players who want to start over, and all be damned if they are allowed to escape the reality of that as I need to be in control of others and what they want to do, as much as I can be.” Ah. This is a game, fundamentally, an RPG, that tells us to play in moderation. I have to work for a living, but I will be devoting -a lot- of time to this as I did for the first six months of classic before quitting. I didn’t -fall behind-. I experienced everything I didn’t get to from the original release: playing fresh from the start and venturing into the world until phase three. That was the grind I wanted to experience, as every step you take is just the next grind. It was amazing. While an economy reset would be great, it is more about being able to have everything else that comes with a F R E S H experience.
Please take care, and, always, have fun.
This really, really gets at the heart of wanting to reset servers back to fresh. Bad economies are just a part. It has been great being on the forums with people like Gorrith, yourself Silivros, Micheas… Because I have met people I would love to meet, level with, get in Discord with, and enjoy raiding with. It is really funny, because I know we aren’t getting alts here responding, but there are so many comments that people actually call many of us out for “using alts.”
Silivros, this IS my Classic. You hit that nail right on the head. So many people have this one last chance at TBC, my favorite WoW expansion bar none. Wrath and Vanilla just weren’t TBC for me.
Before TBC Classic was announced, I was never on the forums. I have actually very much enjoyed meeting people who are like-minded with me, adamant about preserving this expansion as much as possible.
It may be a pipe dream, but I have found myself just hoping we get any kind of blue post because it MIGHT mean we are getting fresh servers. I would be teaming up with people from these threads like crazy. And we won’t all be Dreanei or Blood Elves either. Human always here!
What fun that would be. When I joined Classic Vanilla, I was moreso feeling out what a revisit to TBC might be like. I played the hell out of it. It let me down in the end because of economies alone, but some of us simply DO NOT WANT what made Classic Vanilla’s economy explode to pass over into TBC.
We want to preserve the game as much as possible. You summed up pretty much all my feelings on fresh, Silivros. I believe we will get an answer. In the mean time, I will be playing in other games and watching the forums. Just for the sake of playing with like-minded players, please please give us a blue post. I want to play with these people from 1-70.
Fresh will force RMTs and bots back for a long time. TBH, I don’t know makes more gold in Classic Vanilla right now… GDKP vs Bots.
I know there were GDKPs back in 2007, but hundreds and hundreds? Not on Darkspear. Didn’t ever see one. DKP that you can use to buy things with, or…save for TBC. And a lot of people have chosen the latter. Hundreds of these spammed weekly. Enter the gold flooding of TBC.
We who are for fresh servers want a reset without all the added content being introduced, content not in the initial game. We are willing to give up (for me) WEEKS /played worth of T3 BiS, alts, gold, reputations, mounts…
Just to have a chance at a reset experience. Everyone on the same footing. You put that better than me.
Thanks for your post, Silivros!
Hopefully we will find each other out in the world. I will be horde, as I always wanted to be an elf but, rightly, due to lore, I couldn’t do that with NE in vanilla. But also, (human) mage was my first, and mage is the only class I’ve ever mained and want to play. I was jealous of gnomes and wished I had rolled that instead of human during vanilla. They’re just the cutest alternative option! So, I got to do that instead this time around. And I will be reliving my horde TBC experience. And get to be an elf, and a mage. The best. If we do encounter each other out there, fresh or not, I’ll let you hit me first. 
Just PM me on Discord and if this game goes fresh I’ll give you first hit! IDK though. I may be done with this game. Gonna let it play out, but during the stress test…just a wreck. PvP all over near the Dark Portal. Thunderfury after Thunderfury after Atiesh. Big money in those pockets, and this IS happening. The servers are so cheap and slow. It was a stress test, but characters were blinking all over the place, stuttering, etc.
I called it. So much gold coming through that portal, with the first true microtransaction Warpstalkers, of course, all over the place.
I believe I was told, Not many are going to buy the mount. You won’t see many. It doesn’t even fly.
That thing is going to be ALL OVER the place. Just saying. More reason for fresh; this mount looks like it popped out of retail.
The Blizzard forum warriors defending Blizzard’s lack of social participation is entertainment enough for me. 
Because they don’t want fresh servers, and they are literally incapable of understanding others do. Therefore they come up with whatever reasoning they can to rationalize how others might want something they don’t. Because in their minds if they don’t desire something, then no one should. There must be something wrong with those people. ‘They must be private server scumbags’ is a popular justification for their delusions.
That’s how this forum works in general. People have an opinion on a subject, or take a stance on an issue and will do so at whatever the cost. Ignoring logic, common sense, or any kind of reasoning.
This entire paragraph has no meaning other than to do the thing you are saying you aren’t doing. Especially when you say the below quote…
Meanwhile…
Nah, just gonna throw your entire viewpoint into the trashbin and label it anti-boosting thread #135141869163
Yeah there’s nothing but sheer hatred and contempt pouring off this thread, I really wasted my time reading this. Thanks.
Glad to be of service to you. 
/sneaks over and steals your robe
i wanted a boost and a fresh/no boost/no transfer server. hehe!
i’ve never played on a private wow server.
i like people, even if i disagree with them.
so now what? 
I, too, support boosts on existing servers. I think they should be free, though.
how bout some kind of blue post after 1 month of the same topic multiple threads