Fat elves. Not like kul’tiran. Like beach ball round with lil legs and arms. Fat faces, long ears and they wheeze when standing idle.
I don’t mind the whole Allied race system, using it to introduce a race that both factions can use then it was before with the reskins to try an add the other factions racial skin to the other side.
Going past The Last Titan, I would like to see at least some brand new races that choose one faction over the other to give back some faction identity again. The big issue with players wanting Ogres, Naga and a few others, how would they fit and many only suggest these for the Horde only without giving much on “what” the Alliance would get in terms of just not a reskin.
There are a few races they can use the Allied race system to have that race be part of both factions but after that they need to make brand new races, examples like the Vulpera going forward. Since they still won’t add races like Ogres, Naga and other highly requested races at this point, then everyone needs to accept they will never happen even using the Allied race system and request brand new races we have never seen before.
I would love to play a neutral race that way i don’t have to worry about getting hit on the head because i am in the wrong faction.
Anything that’s not a hodge podge of other races. Or worse another elf or worser just a re-sized dwarf with a voice like he fighting off being roofied.
Okay hear me out….
We’ve had stat squishes, we’ve had a level squish, we’ve had a M+ squish. What if they did a race squish?
Make the allied races different body types or customizations for their core race, and either lock the racials to that body type, or let us make a 1 time choice of which racials we want from the core or allied race.
Obviously there’d still be some allied races shown available like Nightborne, Void Elf and Vulpera, but I feel like this is the best course of action. Or something very similar to it.
I concur with this. Less of them in Orgrimmar! 
I concur with the OP. Neutral races have not been fun and I have not been a fan of any of the past 3. Dwarves on Horde are what made me feel like anything goes no which makes me scared for Forest Trolls
I think it’s garbage you have to do quests… at level 40… just to unlock a race
It takes autonomy and race choice away from players. Imagine someone really loves Vulpera or Kul tirans but they weren’t allowed to make them as their first ever character
It’s garbage to force people to play a character they don’t want to play for 40+ levels just so they can unlock the race they actually want to play.
Rather then designing questlines to unlock races… those resources should instead go to making starter zone quests. A starter zone could have been a great way to flesh out Vulpera, but instead their Allied race quest is them running around helping other horde races with no fleshing out and lore expansion for them. I would have loved Vulpera being available right away with their starter quests being set around a traveling caravan that goes around Azeroth, to really emphasize that their travelers and showcase their craftiness when confronted with different problems
Me and other players made dracthyr evokers as our first characters and skipped the tutorial back in Dragonflight. It was a struggle for me to learn wow but it was worth it. Let people play the race they want. Allied race unlocking quests are just arbitrary barriers at this point.
I don’t think that’s likely, as people do get attached to their characters and each playable race has their own racials.
Honestly, I’ve said it at least once before, I think the best option would to allow for in-game faction changing.
Instead of cluttering the UI with doubles of every new race, take advantage of the peace between the factions and their embassies, and allow for players to opt to abandon their current faction in favor of joining the other through a gold cost, rep grind, or just a questline - once on the opposing faction, their original faction is hostile to them unless they change back.
Then just give neutral races a prompt on creation for their “starting faction”. Rather than splitting the creation screen into “Horde races” and “Alliance races”, their all paired together in one selection screen with the racial info telling you whether they start on Horde, Alliance, or if its your choice.
Multiple problems solved - a race is just a race now. Players have more freedom, the creation screen isn’t cluttered with 2 of every neutral race, and it doesn’t matter which faction “has more races” since any race can abandon their default faction in favor of the other.
i mean race squish doesnt have to mean removing races outright it could simple be merging same body type races into cosmetic options at character creation and let you choose from the list of the racials.
considering most people dont care about racials and most that do are about min/max dps parsing or alt QoL (which most racial QoL have some toy equivalent nowadays) it just allows more options even for the people who cant not min/max for some reason
What Blizzard heard
WE’VE GOT ELVES GIVE US MORE OF THEM (With fur, quills, and tusks this time).
You didn’t even read the rest of what I said.
But… Like… Why?
Most of the allied races should have always been a customization option to begin with.
It’s really odd that they’re deciding for Amani trolls to just give Darkspear trolls Amani customizations and then Wildhammer just being Bronzebeard dwarf customs.
And as I was replying to a post about race bloat, that as well.
You can still have the racials and the name, the only thing that would change is how you create the character.
We don’t need 20+ options per side when a lot of the options can just be folded into another.
I did, but got more focused your question. I know some people who like the race/racial split with those playable races that others think should have been a customization. Like Orcs and Mag’har Orcs, Tauren and Highmountain Tauren, etc…
Though if you want my opinion on the rest…
I honestly think if racials are being locked to a customization, why not just make them a playable race on their own right.
The whole one time racial pick thing feels weird to me and I’m not sure on the idea.
This just brings questions, what factors would determine which allied race is merged and which remains? How would the Earthen be handled? Grouped with the Dwarves like the Bronzebeard and Dark Iron for the Alliance, while remaining their own thing for the Horde? Remain as their own playable race for both factions?
I mean-- if we were to revisit races that should probably have been playable for a very long time now?
- Ogres would be Horde
- Forest and Ice Trolls would be Horde
- Gnolls would probably be Neutral (although if we got a single playable tribe it could arguably go either way)
- Furbolgs would be Neutral or maybe slightly Alliance-leaning
- Arakkoa would be Neutral and there isn’t a compelling reason for them to take either side over the other but certainly seek protection of someone outside of Draenor
- Tuskarr would be Neutral since both Alliance and Horde make friends with them
- The Taunka are just Northrend Tauren and would probably be Horde
- Jinyu would be Alliance as Mists of Pandaria is the only expansion that really gave us clearly aligned races
- Hozen would be Horde, see above
- The Yaungol are just Pandarian Tauren and would almost certainly be Horde
- “The Broken” or otherwise lessened Dranei would definitely be Alliance
- Ethereals/Brokers would be Neutral as it would be really weird for them to take either side in this conflict
I can’t think of anything else that probably should have been made into a player race but never was right now. Okay, yes, I know there are people who bring up Nagas or Murlocks but there are obvious reasons those would never work. But a whole lot of them would probably trend towards Neutral. The reason for this is simple-- because the Quests that involved them were the same whether you were Alliance or Horde. So ultimately there isn’t a different dynamic with that race regardless of which you were playing.
But then the overwhelming majority of Allied Races haven’t involved going back to those that were introduced in previous expansions and instead were just some brand new idea and if you were a fan of any of those older races, the designers don’t give a damn. They just want to push their own brand new creations rather than deliver on well established races.
Okay but what about Sethrak and Drakonids?
Those can absolutely work.