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There we go, thanks. For some reason his post was the only one not showing up when I was searching for the phrase.

Ah well then sure, cut it out. Seems like we’ve figured out the actual ones.

All we see is she gets rid of the rage. No where is it stated she lost the power.

The whole point of the ritual was to make her get rid of the powers, not the rage.

The powers threatened to tear her apart, not her rage. She’s gotten rid of both now, and thus also isn’t the Night Warrior anymore.

Forgotten Victim…hrmm, Bolvar?XD

No, the ritual was to share the Night Warrior power among various peoples

Uh is it shared now then? If so, we shared it between what, 4 people? So 4 is the magic number when 2 wasn’t enough? She seems to have gotten rid of the Elune inside of her from what I have gathered in the questline. I’m not getting the feeling that she’s still the Night Warrior or that she still has access to the powers.

We’ve seen not only Titan keepers create pocket realms, but also mages create small pocket dimensions. Helheim, all four of the elemental planes. Maybe even the Halls of Valor could count as such a place. It’s also theorized that Freya created the Emerald Dream.

Not one aspect of the Eternals would indicate they are even close to a being like Sargeras or Aman’thul. They struggle against weak forces that’d be overrun by the Legion, they are attacked and nearly killed by their own followers or mortals. Ysera indicates that the WQ sacrificed a heavy portion of her own power just to keep Ysera(canonically weaker than a keeper) from dying.

Compare this to a single feat from Aman’thul, merely reaching down and popping Y’shaarj like a zit, the most powerful Old God of them all(the keepers couldn’t fight Old Gods 1v1). It’s not even a close comparison.

Yes

Yes.

It’s what we were told

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Well but… that makes her not the Night Warrior then anymore?

I didn’t see that at all? We do the ritual, Tyrande gets rid of the Elune inside of her and seemingly her powers that threatened to kill her and after that it’s about the tear of Elune for one more quest.

If I have a gallon of water, and I give 3 friends 1/4th of the gallon each, I still have water

Ethriel it was during the Night Fae Covenant Campaign, where Ysera and Thiernax decide to do the same ritual Thiernax/Qadarin did but with more night warriors.

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I’m aware of what the ritual was supposed to do, but I just didn’t get the impression that Tyrande still has NW powers because it seems like the Night Warrior plot is over with Tyrande basically getting rid of Elune in there.

We literally don’t know what happens in the cinematic, all we know is the end result is the Winter Queen is suddenly there with a Tear of Elune that is labeled “Winter’s Sigil” (so new Covenant Sigil)

We do know the ritual that was done was not made to strip Tyrande of her Night Warrior powers but just help share (and control) the power so that she doesn’t die.

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Andorhal sure does look weird. It’s a carbon copy of how it appears in WPL right now, and the Alliance and ruins parts make sense but the Forsaken area is still there complete with Forsaken banners lol

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Also, it seems that in the room full of soul fragments collected by Frostmourne, there are a bunch labeled “A Forgotten Victim” so it looks like I was probably right that it isn’t referring to anyone specifically, but rather it represents Arthas’ nameless victims.

It’s kind of weird that Uther’s is the only one we can free though.

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I’m basing it on what Tyrande says after the ritual, and she says that she’s herself again and not influenced by Elune it seems like.

Is there anything stated about this? Will this keep the Jailer imprisoned or Ardenweald safe?

Yea, but I’m not really seeing how Tyrande can both:

  1. Have gotten rid of the Elune inside of her
  2. Have gotten rid of Elune’s powers that threatened to tear her apart

and at the same time:

  1. Still be the Night Warrior.

Honestly the questline seems to do a lot to explain why specifically a Mourneblade is so powerful. Being struck/killed by one can have the effect of literally shattering or reshaping the victim’s soul, which seems to be the fundamental essence of what “domination” magic is.

Because the power was consuming her. The power is now shared. Which was the point of the ritual. You can’t speculate when we literally have canonical statements on the actual nature of the ritual :upside_down_face::upside_down_face::upside_down_face:

Dunno, much like Sinfall after the Dreadlords and Seat of the Primus after the Primus returns, the Ardenweald stuff is inside the Sanctum.

I need to do my Druid to know what has changed inside the heart.

My gallon of water metaphor

But you seem to miss something important here: If she shared the power, why did she fully get rid of Elune? Surely she’d still have a part of Elune inside of her after sharing it according to your :droplet: :ocean: metaphor.

very likely she has power of elune, but it has been diluted.