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Only you understand this, with the desire to interpret everything negatively that you hear and therefore always evaluate everything negatively in the same way, as you often and masterfully do to ridicule players.

No, that’s not my argument:

My argument is that I would have liked HONESTY, and simply admitted, “Yes, I would like a deity figure as significant as Elune is in canon”

But that was always denied, although it was obvious.

In itself, it is not a problem for me to support such a “True Deity” in principle, I see good reasons for it, but I would like at least an honest discussion.

My problem became later when with An’She they started to take things away from Elune. I thought that was going too far again, e.g. An’She as a very emotional god as a distance to the distant deity that Elune represents, as the creator of the Nether and fel…I honestly thought that was a really cool idea.

as opposite to the ragefull night warrior incarnation it could be an avatar of pride (the user become more and more deluded under its use, whereby you develop paranoia and therefore eventually go insane until you are a greater danger then use, but until then like the Nightwarrior really hammers in)

same place baal got the files.

No ****. There’s a moon expansion coming. They’re laying track for it now.

A moon Expansion? I can already see it in front of me:

World of Warcraft

Moon-rassist-Night elves .

Dude, I don´t need to “ridicule anybody” when their own words to the job good enough to achieve this.

YOUR very words were -and I cite-:

Well, duh man… the An´she thread is yes, about Horde getting THEIR OWN First One God… not about getting "some vague sort of kinda true God taht isn´t a real true God cause there´s still Elune et al First Ones above that Horde “true God” in BOTH construction AND power scale.

See? How ridiculous indeed it sounds when you say “I support Horde getting their own version of a true God” and in the same pharagraph you put “BUT don´t make it in the same tier AND power level than the only known true God A.K.A. Elune” A.K.A. it can´t be an actual TRUE God.

And we just want someone IN THE SAME SCALE OF POWER. We could have asked for someone ABOVE Elune´s tier of power -so to put in DC Comics level, you guys have ONE of the Eternals… we ask for ANOTHER Eternal but we could have perfectly well ask for THE PRESENCE. Now that would have been entirely too much -though I´d explain why ubber powerful Elune has NOT been able to erase the Horde in favor of their Azerothian pet race if an even more powerful God is backing them Hordies-.

Lol, imagine a rando greek saying the existence of Poseidon somehow took away from Zeus or something.

That only happens if you pretend to construct a MONOTEISTIC system of belief… Polytheism has several gods and goddesses and last time I saw the existence of many of them didn´t made them any less powerful in their own individual niche.

Literally said in trhe OP of that thread, dude.

Man, sometimes I wonder how “weird” must we -Baal and myself- write when you people basically misunderstand and/or ignore the messages.

Do you think Elune is terribly emotionally invested when, with all her HUGE powers -I mean the Eternals and Titans are insects in comparison- the best thing she can do for the race she literally molded in her own appearance is put them to sleep while they get murdered and sent to the proverbial Hell?!? W T F

I mean, even a minor “God” - a Loa- like Bwomsandi did MUCH better in regards to protecting HIS beloved followers.

The people on that thread ESPECIFICALLY AVOIDED taking the same thematics as Elune, but unfortunately for you, a God in the same scale of power CAN´T be limited to only Fel just because Blizzard decided to grossly expand the reach of Elune herself!!

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I said above, my problem with it in terms of content was only reached when they tried to take things away from Elune and give them to An’She :wink:

No i don´t think so, thats the reason i call it a good idea, she is distance to the night elves and all her beliefers.

Which most people did NOT do… Blood moons for example were witnessed first in-game with the Jungle Trolls and their Hakkar Loa. And were seen once again in Tanaan Jungle with the Bleeding Hollow Clan (and last time I saw the faction with playable Jungle Trolls and Orcs IS the Horde). That´s why Baal tried to put them under An´she´s domain, cause originally THESE were ICONIC to Horde lore AND visual themes. Literally we haven´t EVER seen a blood red moon related to the Night Elves.

Heck, the thread was even about moving the regular HUMAN originated -and boring AF- “Light Worship” of the Belves into the worship of an actual chaotic solar based deity (yes, one noticeably MORE chaotic than Elune cause guess what? That´s thye BIGGEST difference between Alliance races and Horde races: the first ones are more lawful in their portrayal while the second ones are more chaotic in their portrayal).

So especifically, what was what “took from Elune”? No seriously cause I don´t remember moonfires nor making people into stars not any other Elune esque shows of power that people were demanding to be given to An´she too.

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Literally nothing I suggested was taking anything from Elune and giving it to An’she. Not one singular power did I suggest removing from Elune’s list of crap and giving it to An’she.

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Naaru Creation? Remember?

??? I said that reveal Naaru were a joint creation of An’she and Elune, working together, because Sun and Moon producing Magical Light Crystals would be a cool narrative.

I did not say “Remove Elune from the story of Naaru creation”.

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I who am currently of the opinion that Elune is an Eternal One of the Pantheon of Death would prefer the Naaru be Elune’s gift to Anshe who would be of the Pantheon of Light ruling a Light Realm mirroring Elune’s Death Realm like how Ardenweald mirrors the Emerald Dream.

Personally, I’m looking forward to it.

Night Elves will be able to build a new capitol on their goddess’s face. And then they can leave Kalimdor!

Yup!

Night Elves can have their “higher” god. I’ll take a lower god who’s actually willing to get involved and get his hands dirty.

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I don’t think Mal’ganis will be an ally but the mention of Renathal and atonement does actually allow Blizzard a pathway to making Mal’ganis an ally of sorts for the future.

And I just find that darkly hilarious, regardless of the low chances of it happening.

I’m hopping for Malganis with a muzzle on a leash

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And I thought you said you didn’t visit that side of Tumblr!

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Smh not like that :skull:

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Nothing is saying the stonewright used the power bestowed upon them from Elune to create the stoneborn…holy heck.

Nor am I saying that.

As I’ve said now multiple times:

If anything, elune being tied to it is seen as a bad thing, as the character did so much bad things in her name that they have to atone.

Regardless, you can literally omit Elune and nothing changes from Venthyr storyline.

Sire Denathrius made the harvesters and the stonewright, who then made the stoneborn.

Oh hey look…Elune has no importance to the story whatsoever.

By the way, Prince Renethal worshipped the flying spaghetti monster. Ahh crap! Now the flying spaghetti monster is completely tied to Revendreth.

My advice: take a deep breath, go outside.

Yet is still part of it.

Because that isn’t a full explanation.