We are doing the total amount of stuff to do for anyone within the confines of the xpac.
Marks of Honor
What are you talking about exactly?
That ones legit but BFA has neck and now cloak
Also legit, BFA also has that
Well, Wrath added the dungeon finder so if you are talking about dungeons that is only true for half the xpac lol. WG had a portal. Everything else you took flight paths am I forgetting something? It’s no different in BFA, I take flight paths to get out to my WQ areas and do those just like I’d take a flight path to the sons of hodir daily hub and do those
I think my list is fair, I’ll wait and see what others have to say
Edit: Added in Ring for wrath and Shadowmourne and neck and cloak for BFA
A lot is changing come SL for the new player as well as the returning player that has been gone for a number of xpac’s. When it comes to playing through the game and leveling to the current xpac.
Now the current xpac, well no one can speak for SL yet, no one has enough info to know how player friendly it will be as the lifespan progresses. But when it came to BFA, I can say it was not that bad of an xpac to level alts though, gear and such, yes you have essences to deal with. Outside of that though one could gear up pretty quick and even level the neck really fast. So catching up in that aspect was not an issue. Earning rep is not as big of an issue as its made out to be to earn your flight either for those whom are 1st time in BFA. Its probably the easiest xpac thus far to earn pathfinder in.
Which leaves us with the most recent patch, and the cloak and corrupted gear. The cloak while not a quick thing to catch up on, it can be done. The new gear one just has to get used to the give and take of for every up there is a down side to it. Are you will to play the price or do you have the protection on your cloak to cover the cost.
Keep telling people, “I got mine, but you don’t need to fly”. Playing is a huge pain without flight. Maybe you just sit in queue all the time in your capital, I don’t.
But…
Players leveling up get flight at 60, druids at 58. They reach 90 and they can’t fly, and they can’t get pathfinder until leveling up into legion, because Tanaan content has been tuned to be impossible at 100 anymore. They get to Legion, and they can’t fly, with the horrible terrain puzzles they have to play through.
And “people” are trying to tell them that they don’t “need” to fly. Flight apparently is a privilege they weren’t intended to have and don’t deserve.
Honestly, why do you play the game? It sounds like your hobby is passively aggressively alienating new players, not playing wow.
In Wrath, instead of new zones, there were placeholders. Like the plateau where after a while there were the Crusader Coliseum.
You had the “proto phasing” in which NPCs and outposts would be constructed once you did a questline for that.
You had some more realistic impression that you and your faction were “encroaching” Arthas and taking his territory.
It is not like these days, when some new land appears out of “dubious information”, as both Zandalar and Kul Tiras, as Kezan, actually were shown to be in another place originally in the lore. And regions that are made out, like in Cata, or WoD.
The only one that actually always existed and had always been correctly placed, albeit not regularly accessible was mount hyjal.
But there was never again a good building of map and changes conditioned by your actions like WotLK had.
I do more content with flying than I do without flying.
I will do WQs because I see they are up and I’m nearby and I actually enjoy doing them and since it isn’t a pain in the dooker to get there I’ll go. With no flying? Nah, forget it, don’t want to run out there just for that.
That was one of them. You had the DK one. You had the overlook passage into Icecrown. You had the one you killed those two elites to make a hidden base in a suspended plateau.
There was one to remove the generals from the north end of Icecrown and take the outpost for your faction, each would take one side.
You had the one you would take the base behind the West side.
And you had the ones in Zuldrak, and all other regions. Including the big one that you befriended the Vrykul gals in Stormpeaks.
I guess there’s a demographic that plays the same amount of content regardless of how many roadblocks are in the way and how long it takes. That’s not me. I play the same amount of time and like to get more done during that time.
That’s how some people play. They play until they’re done, then they go and play some other game.
Is that how you would play if you weren’t forced through gating to keep from doing what you want to do?
I belong to the demographic that always can find something to do. I guess that’s not you.
People who didn’t play Legion content don’t have a flight whistle.
I have a 120 who boosted, and even though she went back to play Legion content, can’t get a flight whistle because the devs obsession with locking players out of things they don’t deserve means some of these janky codes don’t play well, especially after repeated changes and nerfs that most players or even GM’s don’t understand.
I’ll take your trolly answer and answer you with respect.
Fortnight, I’m not fan of that genre, played it once, and it’s not for me.
it’s true that the game has become the meme/laughing stock of the gaming industry because it’s large young playerbase.
What people fail to admit is the success of the game and the company behind it. The devs love their game and work hard to keep the content fresh. The big playerbase means the players love the game and are enjoying it, which means they are spending money on skins and whatever else they sell in their in-game store.
So what’s the problem with fortnight? Just because I don’t like the genre I should be laughing at it? No, I respect their dedication to their game, and how they are active with the content and in touch with their players.
Remember that they laughed at Minecraft once too, and till today it’s community is standing strong, and that’s much stronger than WoW today.
True, walking is fun, its same as lvling up your character instead of getting lvl 120 boost( fly path) Everything enjoyable comes from an effort, when we put effort it makes us feel good in the end but when we skip effort and get the reward right away it only lasts few seconds.
There is very big difference with simple game with no lore like fortnite and game like WoW, you can’t say that fortnite devs work hard for it, game has no lore, no classes,no races( more than 3) , no maps, no expansions, no loot within levels, fortnite has 10% of what wow has just in one expansion.Comparing fornite dev to blizzard is just shame from wow player, you compare two games, one is simple and thats why they have easier time working for it, compared to wow with all the lore and built up story which shapes state of the game. like please, you are the one trolling here.
If the game pains you so much, why bother playing it? Do something enjoyable!
Flying from the start would trivialize questing, I know it because I’m leveling an alt right now. I can skip through almost everything and just snipe whatever objective I need, as a druid I don’t even have to “dismount” to loot.
That’s not how the game is intended to be played, either you muscle through the mobs or you strategically avoid them with your abilities; I’ve gone through that, ergo I get the privilege to not do it again.
Wow was great, and they dragged it to dirt over the years.
Fortnite has no lore, I agree, has less content. But is more popular.
This is not a game of which one is better, it’s about learning from what others are doing, and try to apply things to your own game.
Does this mean wow has to become a battle royal? NO.
Welcome to the gaming era of instant gratification , mmorpg are a dying breed , its all about instant lobby games .
People dont want to invest anymore time into games now a days , its all rush rush rush to get the content done and move on to another bandwagon game .
Heck im lucky to be old enough to only be partially brainwashed in that mindset , people forgot that games exist first and foremost to entertain you . Not a job , not a race , not an epeen competition .
am I forgetting something? It’s no different in BFA, I take flight paths to get out to my WQ areas and do those just like I’d take a flight path to the sons of hodir daily hub and do those