New PC new Problems... only in Wow

New Alienware R10 with an AMD ryzen 9 5900, and an RTX 3070.

Only game that crashes (and its a HARD crash, screen goes black and whole system reboots) is Wow so far. I have tried overwatch, Doom, a few RTX enabled games, really pushed this system to its limits and nothing else crashes the system at all. only wow, and its pretty regular crashes every 15-25 minutes, and once it crashes once it will successively crash again and again 3 or 4 more times then stabilize for 15-25 minutes.

So its not thermals
its not power delivery
Drivers are up to date
Bios is up to date
I have put a fresh install of wow on this machine, same issue
Played with low graphics settings, high graphics settings, enabling the raytracing stuff, disabling it, I have literally done everything I can think of. but again its only wow (TBCC btw)

I originally though I had bad hardware but the harder I’ve pushed it and it not crashing the more I have though it may be an issue with the game or a setting within the game than the hardware.

I need some help here. The system crashes so hard I dont even get a log output… it just stops… goes black, and reboots.

DXDiag

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System Information
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      Time of this report: 6/16/2021, 20:39:14
             Machine name: DESKTOP-Q1EFABO
               Machine Id: {44C63D92-1E2E-49F9-A208-AF13180F4CDA}
         Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 19042) (19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
                 Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
      System Manufacturer: Alienware
             System Model: Alienware Aurora Ryzen Edition
                     BIOS: 2.1.3 (type: UEFI)
                Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core Processor              (24 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
                   Memory: 16384MB RAM
      Available OS Memory: 16310MB RAM
                Page File: 11543MB used, 7709MB available
              Windows Dir: C:\Windows
          DirectX Version: DirectX 12
      DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
       System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
          DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
                 Miracast: Available, no HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
 DirectX Database Version: 1.0.8
           DxDiag Version: 10.00.19041.0928 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
      Display Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 4: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 5: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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           Card name: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
        Manufacturer: NVIDIA
           Chip type: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
            DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
         Device Type: Full Device (POST)
          Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2484&SUBSYS_39071028&REV_A1
       Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER] 
 Device Problem Code: No Problem
 Driver Problem Code: Unknown
      Display Memory: 16197 MB
    Dedicated Memory: 8043 MB
       Shared Memory: 8154 MB
        Current Mode: 3440 x 1440 (32 bit) (120Hz)
         HDR Support: Not Supported
    Display Topology: Extend
 Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G22_NONE_P709
     Color Primaries: Red(0.639648,0.330078), Green(0.299805,0.599609), Blue(0.150391,0.059570), White Point(0.312500,0.329102)
   Display Luminance: Min Luminance = 0.500000, Max Luminance = 270.000000, MaxFullFrameLuminance = 270.000000
        Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
       Monitor Model: Dell AW3420DW
          Monitor Id: DELA149
         Native Mode: 3440 x 1440(p) (59.973Hz)
         Output Type: Displayport External
Monitor Capabilities: HDR Not Supported
Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_32BPP
      Advanced Color: Not Supported
         Driver Name: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvddi.inf_amd64_162f82a322513eb8\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvddi.inf_amd64_162f82a322513eb8\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvddi.inf_amd64_162f82a322513eb8\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvddi.inf_amd64_162f82a322513eb8\nvldumdx.dll
 Driver File Version: 27.21.0014.6677 (English)
      Driver Version: 27.21.14.6677
         DDI Version: 12
      Feature Levels: 12_1,12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
        Driver Model: WDDM 2.7
 Hardware Scheduling: Supported:True Enabled:False 
 Graphics Preemption: Pixel
  Compute Preemption: Dispatch
            Miracast: Not Supported by Graphics driver
      Detachable GPU: No
 Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
      Power P-states: Not Supported
      Virtualization: Paravirtualization 
          Block List: No Blocks
  Catalog Attributes: Universal:False Declarative:True 
   Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: 6/7/2021 5:00:00 PM, 1050064 bytes
         WHQL Logo'd: Yes
     WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
   Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-67C4-11CF-8D69-09191BC2D635}
           Vendor ID: 0x10DE
           Device ID: 0x2484
           SubSys ID: 0x39071028
         Revision ID: 0x00A1
  Driver Strong Name: oem77.inf:0f066de3685e17d7:Section041:27.21.14.6677:pci\ven_10de&dev_2484&subsys_39071028
      Rank Of Driver: 00CF0001

The majority of your report is missing. Please use Pastebin.com if it doesn’t fit here.

I’m also incredibly familiar with your R10 system, and I want to note that keeping cool is a common problem it faces. I recommend checking the temperatures anyway with HWMonitor. You may be hitting throttle temps causing reduced performance.

Sorry haha

The biggest issue with prebuilt computers is that they come with bloatware. In this case, the Alienware Command Center is likely using a lot of CPU/resources in the background.

Problem signature:
P1: DellInc.AlienwareCommandCenter_5.2.115.0_x64__htrsf667h5kn2
P2: praid:App
P3: 5.2.115.0
P4: 606dfa6c
P5: 368b
P6: 2097280
P7: NO_PACKAGE
P8: AWCC.Background.Server.exe

The only other error is for Quake, and nothing for WoW itself. I still recommend checking the temperatures.

ACC is using <1% average cpu… only uses a lot if you havent completed the setup. (went through this with my alienware laptop)

I have logged the temperatures… they never get out of wack at all… CPU is averaging 50-60c and GPU maxes out at 71C

oh and i have cleaned out most of the bloatware… i hate that crap. awcc is only still on so that I can manage the stupid lighting on this thing haha…

also its an R9 5900… 12 cores… AWCC cant chew up that much

Since this issue falls outside the scope of support here, the only other things I can recommend are to review the MSInfo for errors before the crash and also the Windows Event Viewer system logs.

Got it… so passing the buck… of all the games I have played none crash but WOW… but it has to be something outside of wow right? cant be anything with WOW or related to wow??

honestly I get it you cant troubleshoot every machine every time, but this seems a bit odd. I’ve run RTX demos, I’ve run Heaven Benchmark, I’ve beat this machine to death in every way and its fine, but WOW crashes.

BTW there are no logs of anything that i could generate, nor could Alienware support.

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Let’s keep in mind that I’m a forum volunteer and not a Blizzard employee. Their help article concerning this issue says they do not provide troubleshooting for unexpected system shutdowns (check the red banner on that page) because the game client cannot force your system to do so. Instead of leaving your thread unanswered, I tried to assist you and point you in the right direction.

The MSInfo, once exported, is guaranteed to show some errors. Whether they’re directly related to this I can’t say without seeing them for myself.

I appreciate your attempt to help :slight_smile: just more frustration that Blizzard is more than happy to pass the buck and say they cant help…

the idea that an application cannot cause an unexpected system shutdown is erroneous poorly written applications can often cause all kinds of issues including system shutdowns.

either way just sucks spending thousands on a new pc, and unable to play a game like wow…

Okay, but did you export the MSInfo and look at the recent errors? Or look in the Windows Event Viewer?

File is too big for pastebin haha… ill upload it elsewhere

That means it has a lot of errors. Controlc.com might work.

Figured it out… its wow adjacent…

the R9 5900 and r9 5900x cpu’s have issues with certain USB calls… from how i read the document. it was mostly fixed in a bios release that I applied but not fully. the CPU had to be RMA’d and is now working

what i find interesting is what does WOW do differently with USB than any of the half dozen other programs/titles that i attempted to run and crash the PC with.

either way its resolved thanks

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