I mean, itās not a terrible idea if your need multiple compete systems with different requirments.
If I were to upgrade when Ryzen 4000 launches (assuming itās finally a gaming gain over my 8700k), I wouldnāt be losing because I have other needs for functional competent systems.
But for users of a single system itās definitely not worth it.
How much of a gain are you hoping for and how much are you expecting? Cause I havenāt seen anything on the horizon that moves me enough to āupgradeā from my 8700k. But when I do, and because I like to give my old parts away, some lucky friend is going to get a beast of a chip
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Actual expectation?
Parity with Intel at gaming across the board, perhaps +/- 5% in gaming compared to the 10-20% deficit we currently see when not GPU limited.
Still superior in multi-threaded tasks.
Regarding legitimate performance reasons to upgradeā¦I mean I donāt think anything short of 30-40% difference in whatever it is you do is āworthā upgrading if thatās the only reason. You really arenāt going to feel anything less.
Honestly, an upgrade would simply be for the purpose of alleviating this boredom I have since COVID-19 hit and Iāve been trapped at home.
I am the warden of my own prison, with my kids as the inmates.
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I meant more in terms of building the PC they want but waiting for the next generation of video card - not popping a new CPU into the unit. Not the best of advice, I admit - but just another option short of going āall inā when we know good deals and upgrades are right around the corner.
In any event, Griefs is 100% correct about waiting being the wise move (and I do sincerely complement Griefs on his logical, evidence based posts).
I also 100% agree with his suggestion that if you absolutely canāt wait, go with one of Salās builds. Griefs is a solid guy - he wonāt steer you wrong and Sal is one of the most helpful and knowledgeable people on the forums - youāre in good hands OP!
Is latency between cores and the IO die still going to be meaningful? The 3300x is my favorite budget CPU in part because it doesnāt have CCX to CCX latency (assuming they ever come in stock again)
Agreed.
I feel you. I already did a COVID PC upgrade in March. The main goal was to move cases (Fractal Define Nano to NCASE M1). Doing so required that I remove the hybrid watercooler Iād installed on my 1080ti. Instead of going back to the FE blower, I installed an Accelero heatsink. Added a second M.2 drive (2TB to replace my 2TB HDD), too.
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Thatās a beast of a chip and in some ways I regret not getting one when they were current - the longevity of the value is impressive.
I think thatās one of the reasons Iād like to see the OP wait. The 8700k might have been more expensive when it came out, but for a gaming rig, the value over time is undeniable.
One thing I donāt recall seeing is the OP indicating if they are looking for a 100% gaming rig or something more multi-purpose.
Where is You and what have you done with him?
Is there someone on the forums with a similar name to me? I must admit to being a little confused by some of the responses.
I just wish Griefs didnāt ignore me so quickly. 
Again, not to derail this thread, the OP is getting solid advice to wait and see. Iām hoping we get a response so we can better understand the āuse caseā - that would certainly allow you to target your recommendation a bit more finely.
i just noticed it
ROFL 10/10 my man.
10/10.
I hear the infinity fabric is getting faster and as it is for 3rd gen already, very fast low latency ram can cut down latency pretty good.
If 4th gen can cut the latency down even more it might be enough.
Then Iām excited to see what Zen 4 and DDR5 have to offer
You realize this You is not our You.
Unless itāsā¦you.
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Umm did you not read his first post in this thread?
Heās probably recreating himself so that he can try to be a forum MVP or something. You remember how important trust level 3 was to him? Anyway, Iām done talking about him
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That was You the Grey, I am You the Whiteā¦ You as he should have been.
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Thank you for the response. It is very helpful. Some answers for the questions.
- I do already have an monitor, headset, mouse etc
- This will just be for gaming.
- Its the first time I will be building my own PC so a little nervous about putting it all together.
Donāt know your display capability, but this is a general $1300 price point build that will be good at everything, including gaming.
Obviously, wait for 4th gen if you can.
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Zd86R
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550M BAZOOKA Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($133.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($94.88 @ Newegg)
Total: $1203.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-24 10:07 EDT-0400
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FYI on the Crucial P1 1TB above (fine NVMe as I own the 500GB version) but you can get the Western Digital 550N 1TB on amazon (also own that exact one) for the same price. The WD is faster (via benchmarks but not necessarily real world) but more important comes with a 5 year warranty so it should hold up better.
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tbh i just clicked it because i knew it was at least okay, and was on the first page of the pcpp list LOL
I have a 660p (also 5yr warranty) and i like it, but really i donāt think in real world non-editing tasks (which a QLC drive is wrong for anyway) anyone can tell the difference between any of the nvme drives, but yeah, the warranty makes it worth it.
OP swap to the WD
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I have 5 SSD in my PC (2.5 SSD, m.2 ssd, and NVMe m.2) plus Iāve owned several more with brands like crucial, samsung, WD and scandisk (same company as WD). Iāve run WoW on all of them along with other games through GoG, steam, origin, etc., Iāve never noticed a difference to the naked eye on any of them. Guru3d still tests WoW in their SSD test, the start of the game, login in and starting a level. Difference among all their SSD from fastest to slowest is 2 seconds.
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