New Paladin Races Megathread

Awww dang. Oh well. Maybe someday!

It’s like they don’t really know what they want to do :roll_eyes:

The whole Earthmother thing is tauren storytelling and it might be something like stories about Greek gods.

What we do know is nelf Priests get priestly powers from Elune and tauren get priestly and paladin powers from An’she. An’she magic looks exactly like the Light. It’s described as the Light in stories about Dezco and Anduin. Taurens use the sun and Light interchangeably.

Every time forsaken paladins are requested, we get the same response: the light.

With a follow-up response : but there already is ONE forsaken paladin in game > Sir Zeliek of the original Four Horsemen.

Yes, I have heard all the arguments about how his devotion was so great he was able to maintain his class spec. So I am hearing there is only ONE unique forsaken paladin in game and it is just not possible there could be others? Logically that makes absolutely zero sense.

For me, Lore when out the window when all the other races of Death Knights were “discovered” and the original DK quest campaign was modified to accommodate these new races. There are numerous requests to add more races to the “Lore” of being a Demon Hunter. Logically, any elf could be a Demon Hunter since the transition should be very similar for any elf race versus all other races.

Sir Zeliek could be the leader of the Forsaken Paladins Sect. His guidance would be the mantra for all forsaken.

I’m just wondering with so many cultures and their deities getting cosmic powers through their deities are able to imbue things outside of their wheelhouse seems odd.

I can see in game why it’s the way it is, but we also get from lore that its not exactly as displayed. So I’m just saying redefining Paladin to a warrior of faith instead of a Light infused warrior specifically would allow / facilitate certain races gaining Paladins.

But it’s all up to Blizz on how they want to swing it. I mean Kul’tirans and Zandalari druids don’t make the best sense but we have them.

This is not what happened. The original DK story hasn’t been changed at all.

Bolvar raised the new DKs. He did not get them from the Eastern Kingdom the way Arthas did. He got them from BfA.

Unless you’re talking about worgen and goblin, which again nothing was modified. There were always worgen and goblins in the EK. They even tell you in the starter zone that the worgen did not come from Gilneas and the goblins did not come from the volcano.

I’ve wanted a VE pally. Id take a NE one though

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Sure why not

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I never viewed it as odd.

Again, we’ve always had troll Priests and they got the Light from some where, we just didn’t find out where that was from until MoP came out and we found out that there are loa of Light (the crane from the August Celestials for example.)

An’she has always been the Sun god so I’m not sure why you think he’s nature outside of him being an eyeball. Also, why is it so normal that Elune (Mu’sha) gave nelves their priestly powers but it’s suddenly odd when her brother does the same thing?

I mean priestly powers are different than paladin powers though right?

Actually being infused deeply with the power grants a different set of abilities.

Also if that’s the case with An’she and Mu’sha(Elune) why aren’t we seeing Night Elven paladins?

I mean I’m just going off the mythos of the twins being born from the Earthmother who is clearly the incarnation of nature. So their connection to controlling the elements within the story would make sense?

There’s more to it than just devotion and there are more than one undead paladin in the game.

Sir Zeliek and the undead paladins in the Eastern Plaguelands were raised by extremely powerful necromancers: Kel’Thuzad and Balnazzar. There’s actually no undead paladins in the game that weren’t raised by these two. Blizzard made some NPCs in Icecrown that cast “Unholy” paladin spells but I’m not sure what they are exactly but again, still raised by an extremely power necromancer (Arthas.)

So the story behind these guys are probably that these necromancers were stronger than the Light in this case. Plus, once you’re raised as Scourge, you don’t have control over your actions and sometimes your mind. Sir Zeliek knew what he was doing is wrong and begs you to flee but that doesn’t stop him from trying to kill you because KT told him to. The undead paladins in EPL and Icecrown don’t even have that.

A lot of my post was tongue in cheek mockery of his weak defense of his position. I thought that was obvious with the orc pox and Gil’nean druids living in aquatic form in the waters of Southshore. :dracthyr_shrug:

The one you quoted was in response to

for pity’s sake. THAT didn’t strike you as weak?

Doesn’t this go out the window though with the explanation given in Shadowlands that it doesn’t matter how you’re raised. Necromancy is necromancy.

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Sure but half of their powers are still the same thing: the Light.

You’re asking the wrong person. I think there should be Moonwalkers.

Ok the Earthmother is nature or Azeroth? I think that’s the current theory. That doesn’t make An’she and Elune her clone.

you are reading too much into the “story” did I mention the story at all? no. The original DK starter area was not ice crown citadel, it was eastern plaguelands.

and as far as change, you just contradicted yourself, I said change, and you said it wasn’t and yet, you stated Bolvar raised DKs from BfA not from the Eastern Kingdoms.

sorry to break this to you but that is change right there. The original DK storyline was “changed” to accommodate the new races added to the “lore”

I just created a MECH GNOME Death Knight and arrived on the Lich King platform in icecrown citadel. There is no training, no quests, no death knight campaign and no storyline (for the death knights). You swear fealty, get a weapon and head to SW or Org.

if that isn’t considered a change, I don’t know what is.

and that was my point all along, new races were added to the death knights.

That was in reference to Calia and she wasn’t talking about being controlled by a necromancer.

true enough, but forsaken we have in game are not scourge, we have total control.

But then that makes this more confusing because if the Earthmother is Azeroth she’s a Titan and that’s not Nature aligned at all.

I dunno I’m just like, so all the powers within the cosmos just bleed into each other and do as they please and Fel creates Necromancy creates Void creates Arcane creates Nature creates Light weitd swirling circle of the rules are made up as we feel.

Controlled no, but raised yes. So it seems like if you’re raised into undeath it doesn’t matter by whom. You can regain your will and you could wield the Light should you just choose to do so.

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Splitting hairs. The campaign is the story of DKs and it was not modified. You are doing the exact same story as you were in 2008 if you roll any race from Classic and Cataclysm.

What are you talking about?

Yes. Bolvar raising new races is a new starter zone with a new story. The original story and starter zone for DKs has not changed.

Sorry to break this to you but your Mecha Gnome didn’t do the original story line so no nothing was changed.

Yeah it’s pretty clear you don’t know the difference between “change” and “added.”

Pandas and allied races didn’t change the original starter zone since they can’t even go to it.