New Novella - Heartlands

Sure sure. Still won’t make it in-game. Just like the mountains of RPG lore that were phased out of existence for not lining up.

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You might as well say this of this novella. Like the zone is stuck in BfA.

Novels have always been more likely than non-chronicle lore books to stay canon and be relevant. Considering this was worked on with help from Metzen, it’ll be the word going forward. While those “exploration” books that were poorly recieved and made by one dude who I think doesn’t even work there anymore will remain a novelty that won’t have any baring on canon.

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Like they literally made 4 of them and even have a collectors edition. Blizzard maybe many things but they dont throw good money at bad investments.

Aside from the Horde one the Exploring Azeroth book series has been fairly well recieved.

Wrong. Novel are just as likely to get retconned as anything else.

Depends on the novel and how well recieved it was. I give this novella my stamp of approval so it’s safe in my mind. But please, keep arguing.

And I give mine to the Exploring book series. Again, the worse of them was the Kalimdor one but even then had some entertaining parts to it.(honestly it just needed an editor to fix it up)

‘looks at chillwind camp that is still alive and kicking’

Also are we talking about the lands formally owned by the Kingdom of Lordaeron or the subcontinent of Lordaeron?

The latter of which holds the following zones

Trisfal Glades
Silverpine Forest
Gilneas
Hillsbrad Foothills (& Alterac Mountains)
Hinterlands
Arathi Highlands
Western Plaguelands
Eastern Plaguelands.

While only

Trisfal Glades
Western Plaguelands
Eastern Plaguelands
Everything north of Pyrewood Village in Silverpine Forest (that includes Shadowfang Keep)
Hillsbrad Foothills (excluding areas around Dalaran)
Areas around Stahnbrad in the Alterac Mountains (post second war)

were lands held by the Kingdom of Lordaeron

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Looks at Gilneas, Southshore, Chillwind and other alliance owned territories in that part of the world

Edit: Lordaeron is a pretty vague term and it encompasses a LOT of territory in the north. Some of it which is canonically held by the gilneans also and would be considered gilnean territory

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I think he meant the kingdom.

in that case Southshore and Chillwind are still valid examples of the Alliance having a presence in Lordaeron (the Kingdom)

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But those don’t count if you dislike the book where the Alliance is shown controlling them.

In my opinion the Forsaken’s hold over Lordaeron is frequently overstated, anyhow. They barely control half of the kingdom and even their hold over Tirisfal isn’t absolute with how many minor threats ran rampant there even at the height of the Forsaken’s power, let alone now.

Only thing I dislike is how the Bloodfang pack lost fenris isle to a small group of scarlets with zero explanation on how

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This is directly related to the question of why the Scarlet Crusade still exists after being wiped out in Legion.

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Alliance people need to get over this. The current inhabitants of Lorderon are native to Lorderon. Any incursion from the south is an invasion to displace the people from their rightful homes. It is what it is.

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Not really. The forsaken have since vanilla, added other groups of undead from other nations to their ranks.

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The Forsaken heritage quests did answer that. It’s a small number of veterans leading recruits drawn from disenfranchised humans.

The Lordaeron born Forsaken are by and large those that broke free from the Scourge in the aftermath of the Third War, a small number of undead that will be outnumbered by the masses of undead raised from other kingdoms once the Forsaken acquired the val’kyr.

But I never mentioned invasions from the south, only that the Forsaken barely control half of Lordaeron and that said control is at an historical weak point with the Undercity still in ruins. The Plaguelands are predominately Argent and Scourge controlled, the Alliance continues to have a presence there as well. A solid chunk of Silverpine even if Fenris Isle isn’t included is Alliance or Alliance by proxy.

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So the citizens of Lorderon accepted immigrants into their fold and the citizens of Stormwind, Gilneas and Stromgarde can’t abide by that?

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Saying this in a thread about a story that revealed mag’har get to squat in Arathi because it vaguely looks like Nagrand is peak hordeplayerism.

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Hammerfall and the surrounding area has belonged to the Horde for many years now. It isn’t new or special just for the Mag’har.

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Can you think of any other reason why there might be orcs in Arathi, particularly Hammerfall?

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