New Fear Unlocked: They're going to retcon the Curse of Flesh to be "Azeroth giving us free will"

But your Loken is dead. He was killed by the cat.gif so he can’t lead your armys.
Or what’s left of it. Your titanforged army is either crippled or fleshed and useless.

You only have the Nuke left.
You can use it, or you can let the ceremorphosis happen.

Choose wisely.

they are robots they can designate a new loken, they can make entire armies, but apparently can only use a nuke

Your name has been fixed to be more accurate.

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The thing is, the titans do that too. They literally had two titans whose whole job was backtracking to push back the demons any time they compromised the Order of a planet. That would have been unnecessary if they cared so little about life on those worlds that they just scorch everything wholesale on the premise that it deviates from their design.

Which suggests that Reorigination is an absolute worst-case “mercy kill” scenario in the event that catastrophic collapse can’t be reversed. Since Azeroth is unique in the universe, its inherent ability to resist and endure as it has without the titans coming back to help is unprecedented, and if any other world were as systemically corrupted and damaged as Azeroth is, that world and its denizens would already be well beyond saving because they don’t have the Prime Worldsoul pushing and evolving them to become as resilient as Azeroth’s have.

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You disagree with Algalon himself.

No, because Algalon is unsure himself. He wonders if those other worlds might have resisted and survived against the odds.

He may well be wrong. Azeroth does the impossible. It defies the Legion over and over again when no other world has. It endures and adapts to millennia of compounded corruption when others succumb and collapse in a generation or less. It isn’t just another planet. Time and again it produces phenomena and outcomes unprecedented on any of the other worlds in the cosmos, which is why it keeps subverting the predictions of the titans, the Burning Legion, the Void and even Death.

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The problem with the “Azeroth races are a special case” thing is there are 2 non-Azeroth races that have both been rather instrumental in defending the planet.

Both from planets that succumbed rapidly to fel corruption.

And both have since become part of Azeroth’s ecosystem. The orcs and draenei both had to come to Azeroth to successfully resist the Legion; on Draenor and Argus they were sitting ducks who didn’t stand a chance.

The draenei as they are now are certainly not more powerful than the eredar were at their peak.

and the world soul had nothing to do with any of that, the world soul didn’t star interacting with people until bfa

The whole ecosystem of Azeroth is influenced by the Worldsoul via the Well and the blood that was spilled by Y’shaarj’s removal spurring Life to grow and evolve there as it did.

Just because Azeroth wasn’t talking yet doesn’t mean she wasn’t already affecting things long before BfA.

Draenei didn’t suddenly get powered up from just living on Azeroth. Both Illidan and Hatuun called Velen out for abandoning Argus, and Velen agreed with them. Argus didn’t fall to the Legion because it was weak, it’s because it was abandoned to follow the path the Light set out.

Which is pretty evident since the invasion of Argus was largely done by the draenei and lightforged with only a few people from Azeroth. And the Lightforged draenei never even set foot on Azeroth.

Orcs on AU Draenor were also able to stand against the Legion.

The idea that Azeroth’s races are somehow special is nonsense. Any number of worlds the Titans destroyed could possibly have made a stand, but never got the chance because the Titans decided mass murder was good.

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That’s my whole point. It’s not the races. It’s the planet.

AU Draenor only resisted the Legion - only even stabilized as a timeline - because of intervention from Azeroth, and coincided with the Legion’s greater defeat on Argus

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Garrosh was on Azeroth for what? 4 years total? How much time is required for the Azeroth juices to fully marinate in people?

Garrosh didn’t stabilize AU Draenor by syncing it to Azeroth. Kyrozdormu did by bringing a shard of the Vision of Time there, which was still connected to the other shards back on Azeroth.

Only the Titans can create Watchers. You send a request, but the Pantheon is dead.
You try to use the Forge of Wills yourself, but you hear this sound.

Your computer says your life support systems are partially corrupted, while your planetary defense mechanisms are entirely corrupted.


Funny thing about the worldsoul. Kosak once posted that:

It’s too late. Azeroth will never wake up. He was the Titan’s last hope.

…But a bit of his spirit dwells within every hero of Azeroth, every mage who picked up a wand, every warrior who took up a blade, every champion from any world who took root in Azeroth and decided to defend it as their home.

We mortals are all that stands between the Light and oblivion, but so long as this world is our home we’re lit from within by the heroic spirit of a dormant Titan.

There was a huge backlash. That’s why he withdrew it immediately.
At least the “never wake up” part.

I’m not longer afraid of retcons.
I just accepted that whatever we know will be rewritten to fit the current writing and they don’t care about it.

Since it is beyond my control I’ll just frown upon and move on. Nothing I can do about it, and they don’t care about our opinion either.

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Given the current direction things are heading I wouldn’t mind if it turned out Azeroth is permanently comatose or something and will never wake.

Having everything be morally grey is just as much an extreme as everything being unambiguously good or evil. You can’t have grey without black and white.

Don’t make bring up the Warcraft 3 sourcebook again. The new writers and Metzen want to retcon the Titans to be grey, fine. They want to retcon them into being “evil” or “inscrutable”, sucks but it is what it is. But let’s not pretend they were never good guys and gals.

Character development ≠ retcons.

And WHY do they think it necessary to kill so many to defeat the Void? Could it be that the Void will do much worse?

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probably not, it could go either way at this point