Yeah, they’re both chopping off people’s feet for no reason.
The whole entire point of Algalon in Wrath was that the Titans were WRONG. That mortals could fight against the Old God corruption. Dude has an entire existential crisis over it. Realizing a million-million lives were wasted and he had just callously followed orders with no empathy. And then he went against his programing to stop Azeroth from being reoriginated.
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Titans being wrong is not the same as Titans being evil. That, and without Azeroth’s Worldsoul, we lose against N’zoth.
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Murdering a trillion people is pretty evil. Like one of the top tier most evil things that can be done.
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What if sparing those trillion people means the death of the entire universe (including those trillion people)?
“For some reason, I’ve attached the Titans/Light/(any representation of order or immortal structure) to my own personal religious or political beliefs, such that I interpret the grey-ifying of the above force as being some kind of woke attack on religion or the just order in which some people are meant to rule and some are meant to be ruled as dirty peasants who shouldn’t question their holy masters. But I don’t want to admit this, so I’m going to hide my true feelings by claiming that grey stories are somehow bad writing, and surely people won’t notice my true intentions, just like how everyone totally believes that I’m honest when I say gamergate is about journalistic integrity and not sexism, and star wars hate is about bad writing and not sexism.”
That’s literally all this tired, garbage argument on this forum ever is. Can you people just drop the act already?
Are… Are you okay? Do you need help?
That was a lot of insane strawman arguments you strung together there.
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WoW’s worst writing has always been the cosmic stuff and it feels unbelievably silly for my character whose main purpose in life is to kill 10-30 boars and bring back only their [Pristine Hides] to have so many interactions with them. The mythology of the setting is best seen in exploration, finding hints of things which may be interpreted or misunderstood but never given as a certainty. Case in point–the old dungeons like Uldum or BfD; you can see evidence of something from a very long time ago, a few hints at what it might be, but that’s it; that’s all you need. You lose all immersion when these things have a model and a health pool and a loot table.
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Titans being evil is good. They have been scatchy since Algalon. I for myself will praise the First Ones instead.
Well, the failsafes were there to prevent this.
Algalon appears only if the planet’s Loken is killed and there is an infection with the Old Gods. It’s a bit of a last resort. (I’d prefer the Purge to Cthulhu)
In Ulduar, you kinda had to convince your antivirus software that you weren’t a virus, despite the fact that you appeared to be one, or that you weren’t just some cat.gif if the guy wiped the drive to kill the virus and his friends in the registry.
This adds a few nuances and it’s a bit different then Sargeras’: “I WILL KILL EVERYONE! WAAAH!”
If you reverse the roles, you might wonder what an AI would have to do to prove that it is sentient rather than just malfunctioning.
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If this were the case, why are the Earthen still made of stone? Needless to say, I think the lore surrounding the Curse of Flesh will remain the same.
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Well… no not just because it’s deep within Hasbro’s product identification, but because even a fifth grader can write a story without it
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Why Star Wars? I don’t remember it having evil god-beings.
There are some. Abeloth was Star Wars’ version of Cthulhu, but she only existed in Legends. The Son is also a Dark Side god, but he was killed in the Clone Wars.
I think what they’re saying is that Star Wars has clearly defined good and bad guys.
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Look i like moral greyness as much as the next guy. But i just don’t know how you can expect me to see them as anything but evil when they’d wipe my character of the map withought a second thought, Like i don’t care why they do it cause the effect is the same, everyone is dead.
The alternative would be a ceremorphosis.
It is to be avoided.
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Or we can do what we did and just kill them withought nuking the whole planet. We don’t have to immediately jump to nuking everything and everyone
I think Gods shouldn’t be murdered just to fulfill someone’s fantasy of overcoming religious trauma. They’re an important part of fantasy, regardless of your actual beliefs.
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titans aren’t actually gods though, they aren’t worshipped by anyone