Why should it not? If I make a human, and then suddenly start slamming horns into his head, it definitely creates a break from what has been designed as human.
Designs are not made within a vacuum.
Because it limits what you are able to put into the game. For example, WoW cannot have a customization system that allows you to alter the facial structure and body of the character. It just doesn’t have the means due to the WC3 engine it uses as its base.
You want me to explain in what ways creating aethetics is limited…and when I explain it…you proceed to go. “OMG THIS IS NOT A LOGICAL ARGUMENT!”.
How do you immediately reject an explanation when its given to you?
At this point, it just looks like you’re being contrarian.
How can you claim to be logical when you completely reject any and all of the explanations because “reasons yet to be explained”?
You asked a question.
I answered.
You complain constantly about answers given to you. This isnt a discussion at this point its just you belly aching about the way things work.
Be concise and make the case for exclusivity. Otherwise you are wasting everyone’s time.
We literally have that with elves, we call thise demon hunters.
Like you have gotten so far away whatever point you wanted to make that forgot that demon hunters exist. “Oh but demon hunters existed before” so nothing new can be created?
So? dude, we are talking about customization options in line with all the other customization options already possible with the engine.
“We can’t add that, it costs money!” This is your argument. Like for real is your argument, and you want me to take it seriously?
Then the whole endeavor of expanded customization by itself must be a huge waste of Blizzard’s money! But when you only say “it will cost moneeeeysss” for something you personally don’t want, but give it a pass for things you DO want… that’s the definition of hypocresy.
Well, then it means that copy/pasting blood elf assets for void elves is actually a very good idea, as it costs no extra money to make what already exists!
Creating new aesthetics for void elves would be too costly. Bravo, Blizzard! Getting cash and pleasing customers while avoiding aesthetics depletion!
Your lack of comprehension is your personal issue, not mine.
Did you forget Illidan had horns before WoW came out and that Demon hunters were a planned class as well? Or was this a case where you took the example I gave you in a literal fashion for the sake of misrepresenting my point?
I think its the latter.
Its like…why even bother explaining it to you if you’re just going to dismiss it anyway.
Uh nope…that is YOUR assumption of my argument.
My statement is an explanation about why art assets can be considered limited in the first place.
Like…why do you ask these questions if all you’re going to do is say
“THAT IS YOUR MOTIVATION!”
and
“ITS IRRELEVANT AND HYPOCRITICAL BUT I CANT SAY WHY!”
Like…honestly dude, every time we have a discussion we go so far from the point because you ask questions, hate the answers, then make presumptions of motive and logic to the point that we don’t even remember what the original line of questioning had been.
Well when you make an argument that is predicated on it not taking money or time, sometimes people have to point out that you’re not arguing in reality.
This was never an actual argument being made by me or anyone else. Its Talendrion bouncing off into the sunset saying that is what everyone else is saying.
Where you and everyone else won’t critically evaluate it and just run with the notion.
This is why these discussions go nowhere. Presumptions are made by one party, and the rest of the party bandwagons onto it.
Not really. Someone stomping on my feet will result in pain. That’s objective, not subjective. Giving regular skin tones to a race doesn’t have the same implications. That’s why it’s subjective.
You still need a lvl 50 Alliance character and complete the corresponding achievement.
Sure but you had to roll a DK. Mages, hunters, all belf classes can now have blue eyes.
Blue eyes created the theme of being “pure”, not affected by Fel. It was an important aspect of the High Elf theme.
It does work - in order for something to be considered “negative”, there must be tangible negative consequences. If 6 months after Shadowlands’ release Blood Elves stop being popular and there’s an exodus or something similar, I’ll admit I was wrong and you were right. But if everything remains the same, there wouldn’t really be anything you could base yourself on to affirm the change was negative, other than personal preferences of course (which would mean it’s subjective).
Blood Elves can wear blue, but High Elves actively avoid using red because they do not want to be confused with Blood Elves, This is mentioned in Wowpedia iirc.
It adds to the race, as it (most probably) means they’re recruiting new elves. We could argue that the survival of Void Elves as a race is more important than their looks, but that would be another subjective debate.
I mean, I don’t recall treating all antis as trolls just because we’ve had to endure a few of them who were trolling. I might be wrong though.
So what, there’s a mystical infinite art team at wow now?
There’s a limit on everything.
They have a limited number of people making the art - There’s a limit
A day is 24 hours, a week 7 days, etc - Another limit
People can only work so many hours a day - limit
The artists at blizz are responsible for all the art that goes into this and other blizzard games and not just WoW playable race aesthetic - What’s that, another limit?
Pretty elves are just some of the races that the time allocated for aesthetic options will be divided up among - More limits!
And you still have yet to make the case for exclusivity. I’ll assume you just don’t have it in you to be concise and just explain it again. So let’s move on.
Called it.
Need I remind you that this tangent happened because you are arguing that aesthetics are a limited resource? And then you say I am the one loosing the thread.
And now we have a third person fully taking up the argument that “aesthetics are a limited resource”
How much have you lost the point that you are making the argument that “Everything is a limited resource!!!” and not realize it?
“Wind is a limited resource because you have to pay people to build windmills”
This is what y’all are saying, How.
Like for real guys. 3 of you, making the same bad argument.
This is true, but they also mentioned this specifically in the context of the BfA faction plot. From what I recall, they made it sound like they only cared about it for the duration of BfA.
Seeing as the whole basis of Void Elves was mini-Allerias, going too far Void would’ve kinda defeated that.
You can just admit you said something dumb and move on?
Look, there’s infinite potential aesthetic design. But getting that from potential to an in game resource takes time and effort and money, thus meaning there’s a limit to how much goes in. It shouldn’t really be a controversial point.
Considering that my point was actually that aesthetics aren’t a limited resource, thus meaning there’s no reason why only ONE race SHOULD get an aesthetic, the whole “but it costs money” argument you three actually made thinking it was a good one, was the dumb thing here.
Oh wait, this is you finding a new way to explain how your greedy desires for something YOU want are pure, and good and logical, and our greedy desire to not end up with the inferior version of the thing we had first are capricious and mean spirited and nonsensical.
I can only imagine how many heads are going to explode on the forums if Void Elves get blonde hair.
I’m guessing the antis will retreat behind their final bastion of “you still don’t have paladins ha!”.
The amount of nuclear meltdown if Void Elves actually did get Paladins tho? That would probably be a truly epic sight to behold.
The funny thing is… even if we don’t get blonde hair right from the get go, we can (and will) still ask for it, and I’m fairly confident we’ll get it too. Paladins not so much he he.
