Y’all should really just ignore anyone who doesn’t post on their mains
Being overly geared in this game isn’t fun most of the time, and neither is being undergeared. Need a way for it to normalize over the course of the season.
It normalizes if you do the appropriate content.
I’m not sure why you think you should get free handouts by doing random bgs. 
Efforts need to be made to get MORE people into PvP… not LESS. Allowing casuals to gear (albeit much more slowly) is one example of way to allow continuous progression in PvP before rating requirements at least… also makes the game more alt friendly… all of which gets more people in BGs and PvP rather than less.
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Just get rid of non ranked pvp and you will start earning more conquest.
I’m sorry you’re having such a hard time with this Kekw. But I’m sure the benefits outweigh the costs for the majority of players. Just because you wouldn’t use a system, does not mean it shouldn’t be discussed and considered.
I have long held that ALL players should be able to access 226 max conquest gear, but agree that the RATE of acquisition should be faster for better players or at higher ratings. In fact, the old system rewarded more weekly conquest to higher rating.
But in the end, ALL players should be able to progress in gear, which shouldn’t be limited by rating (just the rate at which they earn said conquest rewards).
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PvP is the only aspect of the game where end-game goes against fresh the entire patch right now.
Imagine if there was a random chance of going into a Mythic 2+ but the bosses could be from Mythic 10-15. Or if you went into a Normal raid and there could be a Mythic raid boss. It makes no sense.
Aw man you got me breaking my own rule now.
It doesn’t matter what the amounts would be, it has nothing to do with time invested. The PvP gear is made for PvP’rs, so if someone is unwilling to do rated content in order to get conquest gear then that’s that. Should they hand mythic & raid gear out for BS’n your way through heroics? No, and they don’t. This is a ridiculous suggestion, glad it’ll never happen.
I’m sorry you feel entitled to free gear and that blizzard simply doesn’t agree with you.
Thankfully blizzard has gated people who don’t want to put in the effort with rating locks.
If you need help progressing to get more gear I’m willing to give you tips. 
One of my mains btw, I play all classes, in all forms of PvP.
Pvp needs to make changes to be more inclusive and to draw new players and retain them. Right now the current system dissuades both new players and casual players, as the grind is rough and so is the gear difference, while other players eventually find themselves stuck at 1400-1600-1800 and never reach gear cap.
Why not open up the max gear to all players, and just modify the rate at which players earn conquest… such as converting honor into conquest at a lower trade-in? They are already doing this for Torghast Ash in 9.1 btw.
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How so?
You get 8 conquest for a win after the first win.
That’s 13 wins to get 100 conquest.
Let’s say you average 300 honor per BG, you would need to play 33 BGs to get 10000 honor.
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Yes I did.
Also I don’t have to imagine anything about pve. This is pvp. Do rated content and earn gear. It’s a pretty simple system.
Main of who.
Use checkpvpfr website, search for Bishopi.
All alts linked below.
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Is anyone suggesting that they hand out 226 gear to people who don’t do rated? I haven’t see that. Please point me to where someone has said that. Otherwise it is a strawman argument.
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I’m aware how that works. Not really worth my time for something you could just as easily of stated yourself.
Too many to list, but I do have experience above 1800 & 2100 across many toons, and sometimes on the forums it seems like people don’t want to listen until you show stats.
Again, I think pvp needs some overhaul and more attention to acquire and retain player activity. Once issue is definitely that 226 can play against 180ish ilvls, which is not great.
But the main issue is just the gear progression in general. Honor should be able to convert to conquest and there should be more spenders for honor as well, such as profession materials. Hence this post and discussion.
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I disagree. Conquest should be a rated only currency and upgrading conquest gear should not use honor.
If you want other things to buy with excess honor I’m fine with.
Anyone that farmed 10000 honor to trade it for 100 conquest would still have to RBG/ARENA to upgrade it past 200 anyway.
Theres really no argument here except for the sake of arguing.
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As a player of arena I’m surprised you believe in trading honor for conquest. It just doesn’t make sense. Even from a stand-point of it not being a bad thing, there activities are entirely different. However, more options for trading honor would be great. And I think that profession materials is a great idea with lots of benefits for everyone. Things along those lines would be fantastic if they added.
I’d agree if the gear wasn’t upgraded by honor. That’s one of the bigger issues I find with boosting. Someone gets someone to a rating and then all they need is casual pvp.
Sure the changes in 9.1 change it a bit requiring you to at least q one game in that specific bracket every week to upgrade but honestly I’m against conquest gear being upgraded with honor as a whole.