Nerf RDruid and Pres Evoker and

I’m not sure how sitting in a stun/CC while someone on your team gets Thanos snapped out of it existence in a global or two is “skilful gameplay” but each to their own, I suppose.

If anything, Nullifying Shroud highlighted how damn toxic the level of CC and the lack of proper DRs are in PvP. Never mind the fact the reason Evokers needed something like NS in the first place was the meme level “mid range class” design which has proven to be about as viable as a cardboard BBQ pit.

Hell, I don’t even like NS. But try playing a round or two without it and you might see what I mean. Eating CC after CC because you have to stand in effectively knife-fighting range to do anything raises the blood pressure awfully quickly.

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The way you prevent your partner from getting “Thanos Snapped” is properly using your CDs and Trinket.

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Damn that’s crazy a random 1700 Druid has figured out how to beat evoker and no one else in the game has :exploding_head: it’s that easy

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Most cc is avoidable; kiting the enemy, lining behind a pillar, dispels, having teammates who kick meaningful setup cc etc. Positioning yourself on the other side of the pillar when the enemy healer is coming in to cc; all of this also affects your/enemy dps positioning- its a butterfly effect.

There is a lot of cc in the game but a lot of it is avoidable.
I could see the argument that its required because they have reduced range, but that’s not how it functions. It functions like you press this button and you stand anywhere on the map, cc’ing the enemy healer, doing whatever you want for its duration. Effectively any time you would actually have to leave a pillar, you have a cc immunity denying any level of skill or counterplay. To say its function is to cover reduced range is disingenuous.

P Evoker is the DH for healers, basically an easy to pickup healer designed for a simpler playstyle without the baggage of years of trial and error spells. Almost shows you what other healers would be if they where pruned of spells and just balanced around their core heals.

You might find it unfair that they can perform at a similar level with less skill and time invested, and i might agree, but thats clearly the design goal. Very similar to DH

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over the last 3 expansions + DF so far the amount of pvp healers went from vulnerable to critically endangered and you want to nerf them ? nerf pres and rdruid right now and your solo Q times are going to double and GL in LFG if you dont already have a static team… how about we get damage and cc into a healthier spot and then we can bring healers up and down

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If i even spend one second to purge my teammate dies.

If i spend one second cc’ed, my teammate dies.

If 99% of my globals are not spent healing, my teammates die.

Evoker and Rdruid are not the problem.

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Well thats just you man. Thats not a problem with healing. I can heal with a Evoker and a RDruid. But I will Certainly OOM and Certainly fall behind earlier in Dampening. Its not that your class is not capable of keeping people alive. Its that you are playing it wrong. On the other hand its nearly impossible to play Pres Evoker Wrong and RDruid at the moment.

Thats the problem. I dont want to make healing more simple. I want to get rid of the simple healers. No one want to just stay in a super long game for the sake of allowing you to make more mistakes. I dont want healers to just be strong enough to constantly heal regardless of what abilities they use. that sounds like what you want though.

hpal and hpriest are some of the easiest healers to play

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I dont think they are hard to play but you certainly have to use your CDs Properly. Also I would disagree with you at the moment. they are actually a bit harder. HPriest relies on hardcasting constantly now. RDruid has a much higher skill ceiling but at the same time you can keep your party alive at the moment by just refreshing lifebloom.

I dont think you know much about healing.

im within 150 rating of your max on my healers and im a dps main and im healing my friends 3rd or 4th alts for duelist

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Your logic is flawed. I’m not saying i’m playing my class perfectly, but when my flash heal doesn’t make a dent in people’s HP with all of the damage going out, it’s not me “playing my class wrong”. There’s a fundamental issue with the damage that other classes are dishing out.

Here’s a sentence that’s gonna scare you: RDRUID AND PREVOKER ARE THE ONLY HEALERS THAT CAN DEAL WITH THE ABSURD AMOUNT OF DAMAGE IN THE GAME AT THE MOMENT.

There’s no “skill” or “playing my class wrong” involved with anything if a class cannot HEAL enough to deal with the crazy damage right now.

The point i’m trying to make is that no class should be able to HEAL through everything, but should at least heal enough to make a difference in the match.

Prevoker and Rdruid are the only healers CAPABLE OF DOING SO. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SO STRONG. The other healers DO NOT MAKE A BIG ENOUGH DIFFERENCE.

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Flash heal isn’t what you should be relying on right now.

And Flash Heal was used as a reference. I play Disc, none of my healing spells make a difference.

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oof sadge.

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Disc is great right now. you are playing it wrong. If you were healing properly through atonement you would be doing Fine. Disc is in a great spot.

i dunno what game you are playing but GL trying to heal the damage ive been seeing through atonement… your teammate is getting popped instantaneously

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Tell that to Gekz, the top rated Disc Priest. He is forced to play an all-healing build because the damage is too absurd.

Atonement got nerfed from 50% to 40% and you’re telling me I need to DEAL DAMAGE and that i’m playing my class wrong?

Do you not read what I posted before? The damage is too high for me to spend other globals on dealing damage and purging at the moment. I have to spend 99% of my globals healing or my teammates die.

You just don’t read.

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I don’t know what to tell you. You seem bent on whining and stomping your little feet until you get some buff that is going to increase your rating but not actually make you better at the game at all. If others can keep their team alive on the exact same thing you are playing than it must be a you problem. Maybe you just need to get a little better at the game.

I know I need to, so no point in going that route.

you are 1600 with 255 games played guy why are you telling people to get good

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