Nerf paladins already

had alot less about shaman being overtuned for 2 phases p2- later half of p3 and way more to do to alliance’s inability to try at all for all phases but p1.

but ya please do think about it a little more. you might be able to get your head wrapped around it.

Lol it was shamans are fine… Nothing to see here… Alliance are just bad… Then now horde tears… To the moon!!! With the delusion

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So alliance only tries in phases where shamans arent gods? What a strange coincidence :thinking:

It couldnt be that there was legit a 5% win chance for 3 phases because of 1 class being broken. No, its because alliance only try when shamans arent absolutely broken.

This guy was allowed to vote, think about that.

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Alliance players are going to learn to hate paladins due to bloodmoon anyways.

Just like horde hated ele shamans in BM? Oh wait, they all just re rolled one

40% population sway in p2 / p3

Only 1 class gained population during these phases.

Guess which one?

Time to gear up my pally and get into BM! Its alliances turn now :+1:

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no . cause they diddnt try in p4 either up until the changes to tokens from ab .

and even then, the first full week they were not only auto afking to lose , they were actively reporting people who were trying to do objectives.

only after they banned people for that and further changes to tokens (most notably not giving 2 per loss) did they actually try.

it was way more to do with the fact that you were down 5 every single bg who diddnt even try and as a result the rest of the team giving up till everyone just gave up at the beginning of the bg that caused the win/loss rate to be as low as it was.

funny thing is , i ran into quite a few alliance premades in p2- onward that seemed to have no trouble with the horde teams (even some premades).

but do be dishonest with the actual reasoning .

Oh yeah, calls out the week where it was faster honour to lose as alliance than win. Maths isnt your strong point.

Again the alliance win rate while shamans were gods was because alliance just gave up. It had nothing to do with shamans being able to out dps everything else in the bg with flameshock.

And now that the bg winrate has evened up. The shamans cant handle it.

Bgs are in a healthy state for the first time in sod. And the bad players used to winning purely because of their class are now losing because they are bad. Take these 2 shaman who refuse to spec a pvp spec.

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A simple fix would be to reduce their damage output by a flat % when Bubble is up. Let them have their 2.2k Holy Shocks

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I wonder how much of this would be fixed by removing Seal Twisting (both the ‘skill based’ one and Tier set one).

Because I have a feeling that is what’s happening; paladin runs up, has SoC up and uses their attack macro with SoM to twist the two (hoping for a SoC proc), then judges (unsure if T1 6p makes it so both Seals’ judgement lands or not), then Exos.

There’s your “dead in a global”. --If there’s a couple of crits in there, which will be for around 1k each.

Because the ab map is terribly imbalanced, whichever side gets lm bs farm is basically impossible to pry loose from those 3 bc of how much closer they are to each other than gm/st are meaning people can see you a third of the way to lm from st and beat you there leaving bs after youve already covered a third of the ground its why alliances winning strat is to bumrush farm through bs/lm then give up gm and st to horde, because those 2 bases are straight garbage(gm especially because its so easy to trap a team down there) yet so many alliance teams will still commit multiple players to gm like its worth the effort

Nah whats a joke is you playing shaman with all your broken runes and your still upset about paladin bubble which is has been in the game for 20 years

I agree. Paladins being able to fully dps while in totally immune from all damage and crowd control effects in a game where they can kill anyone in 3 seconds is totally broken.

While bubbled, paladins should not be able to dps.

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How is this different than stunlocking people again?

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Nice gaslighting pink boy. Never at any point in classic could paladins 100 to 0 people at range in a couple globals while bubbled.

I play alliance and hate paladins way more than shamans. So insufferably smug behind your 12 second immunity.

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You don’t know what gaslighting is, sockpuppet.

Anyway, I’ve 100-0’d players on Era with my Ret, you’d be surprised what a SoC/SoR twist can do with some good crits.

Like your warrior is not just as much of a sock puppet if not more lmao, at least this warlock is from SoD.

There is a difference between lucky crits lining up and being able to consistently kill multiple people in bubble due the the damage output of holy shock spec.

I don’t post on this character to mislead anyone, and this was my main in '19 anyway. Perhaps post on your SoD main so we know which faction you’re actually with instead of coming across like a shaman main.

Looking at your post history, it’s blaringly obvious :laughing:

My post history is like 80% me complaining about the state of shadow priest. How would you come to the conclusion that I play shaman?

14 of your 20 posts are in this thread. Quit lying.

The server transfer must have reset my post history or something. I have been a persistent forum spammer on this character since P1.