TBC launched on Thursday, I hit 70 on Saturday and we were clearing heroics on Sunday. If you still can’t clear them 8 weeks in then you really suck at the game.
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And once this power-creep takes effect, people are going to be whinging in 2-3 phases from now about how Heroics are face-roll boring and that there needs to be another way outside of raids to earn badges because Heroics feel like a chore that is boring with how easy they are.
This same exact conversation happened in TBCC 2021, and will happen again this summer if not sooner.
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A disc priest is useful for keeping up tanks in heroics.
Pain Suppression (40% damage reduction, the threat reduction is minor) -and-
Shield Reflect (when you are shielded and you SHOULD be, you’ll return 50% of that damage reduction as damage back to the mob)
I really don’t remember this many tears over heroics in TBCC. I would agree that leaving heroics pre nerf and raids post nerf is just an odd choice, but they really aren’t hard to get through.
Then again I CoW and CoT anything I can, and doing some reading I’m seeing AP reduction abilities are extremely impactful (like 15-20% reduction). I couldn’t have told you how effective it was, just knew to do it. If it’s true for TBC (% was vanilla data) I’ll take a haphazard guess that’s why my tanks don’t go around getting instagibbed as much since Pally tanks don’t have an AP reduction to use themselves and this severely saves them on incoming damage.
Who knew using class utility could help.
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I’ve tanked a few heroics successfully (maybe 5 or 6), and Kara as well. I still have two Netherstorm green quest pieces (defense + spell power) because I can’t seem to get lucky on drops for those slots. I am crit capped and my avoidance is 87% with holy shield.
i love it.
now i have to type a few words to post it
exactly, whine about everything.
the player base is diff from 2007. wow player base in anni are elitist theory crafting pompous fools. they over think everything and really just have to medicate themselves between raids
Heroics are easy. Next
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My guild tanks (me included) are almost all pallies and we are doing great in raids. I don’t feel squishy in raids.
Are you dumb? Ive cleared them non-stop. The point is that they dont need to be as strong as they are. I know you probably cant read but try to use those 2 brain cells you got.
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They do need to be strong though. It gives something in the game a challenge. Kara/Gruul/Mag are all absolute jokes. With heroics, you at least have to pay attention.
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I play a healer, the only heroic I have had issues with at times is the gauntlet at the end of Old Hillsbrad. The mortal strike mobs hit for up to 7k on plate and then the casters shadow bolt for 4 to 5 k on top of it. This can be solved with fearing mobs but most pugs are full of crayon eaters and won’t do that. All of the other heroics are manageable with the burst damage, maybe 1 heavy hitter but not several that can do 5k+ at once.
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everyone trash talk tanks but nobody seems to level up tanks and do the job, you play world of crycraft
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Fear em and slap a CoT on them. Pretty sure a caster could LoS tank them, I think I did it on normal while leveling. Haven’t gone in there on heroic (no real reason to) but easily able to take pressure off tank that way.
That’s backwards, but in all these years I lived on the earth I have come to realize that most people think like this sadly…
These Heroics are trash, literally. The rewards do not match up with the pain in dealing with them, add in the issue with most MMO’s where mobs have insane hit radius’s and you have a recipe for people just not wanting to run them.
Congrats to those of you that were able to get through them and get what you need, but now people are hardly doing them. And a lot of people, myself included are just choosing to cheese them (hello Heroic SP Solo) just to get the badges, nether and gear we might need.
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Pallys are great trash tanks. Just not great single target. Sounds fine to me.
I havent played an HC yet here, but i have played in some private server long time ago and it was really hard. I would like to say that DPS should do greater effort maybe using CC, so it could help to mitigate some damage to the tanks
Facts 100%
Nobody is saying they can’t clear them, they’re just frustratingly hard for no good reason.
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